06/14/2023 1:10 pm EDT Atlanta Braves vs Detroit Tigers (Game 1 of Doubleheader)

[Dave Christian]

Miggy with a ground rule double!

[turbo t]

How many people in here think hinch should be gone after this year. 

Edited June 14, 2023 by turbo t

[romad1]

  On 6/14/2023 at 11:22 PM, turbo t said:

How many people in here think hinch should be gone after this year. 

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I think they need to pay for better players.

[lordstanley]

The A’s have caught up to the Royals. Will they catch the Tigers too?

[casimir]

  On 6/14/2023 at 5:31 PM, CMU97 said:

Don't forget this guy

 

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I didn’t notice it before, but look at that hat.  One of the features of ball cards of that era was primitive photoshopping (before basic photoshopping).  I’m sure given the nature of Seattle Pilots’ late move to Milwaukee, there was probably an inordinate amount of touch ups for that set.

[casimir]

  On 6/14/2023 at 6:28 PM, buddha said:

a lot of the tigers hitters are also on a bat delay.

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Preach.

[gehringer_2]

  On 6/14/2023 at 11:53 PM, casimir said:

I didn’t notice it before, but look at that hat.  One of the features of ball cards of that era was primitive photoshopping (before basic photoshopping).  I’m sure given the nature of Seattle Pilots’ late move to Milwaukee, there was probably an inordinate amount of touch ups for that set.

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The 'primative' form of photoshopping was hand tinting B&W originals. My aunt actually did this as a job in the 40's. Things like professional HS graduation pictures were done in B&W right up through the early 70s for the sake the better contrast, grain and stability. You filled out a slip with the photographer listing the colors of the clothes you were wearing, plus eyes, hair, etc. Then a colorist hand painted the colors on the enlargements. There must have been a similar step at some point in the photolitho process for printing.

[chasfh]

  On 6/14/2023 at 11:22 PM, turbo t said:

How many people in here think hinch should be gone after this year. 

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Comin’ in hot!

[RandyMarsh]

  On 6/15/2023 at 12:48 PM, chasfh said:

Comin’ in hot!

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Yeah doesnt waste time putting out feeler posts he just goes for the kill shot right away. 

[chasfh]

  On 6/14/2023 at 11:30 PM, romad1 said:

I think they need to pay for better players.

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This makes me wonder whether Austin Meadows will get a raise for his last arb year next year.

[romad1]

  On 6/15/2023 at 12:52 PM, chasfh said:

This makes me wonder whether Austin Meadows will get a raise for his last arb year next year.

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Let's hope he puts up the numbers to get that.   What I wouldn't give for a legit power threat outfielder who could play everyday without a platoon.   Remember the good old days when the Tigers would just randomly have a Torii Hunter ($13M AAV) or a Justin Upton ($22m AAV) or even a Johhny Damon ($8m for one season).  Alas, ownership prefers the way of pain. 

[chasfh]

  On 6/15/2023 at 1:03 PM, romad1 said:

Let's hope he puts up the numbers to get that.   What I wouldn't give for a legit power threat outfielder who could play everyday without a platoon.   Remember the good old days when the Tigers would just randomly have a Torii Hunter ($13M AAV) or a Justin Upton ($22m AAV) or even a Johhny Damon ($8m for one season).  Alas, ownership prefers the way of pain. 

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I think we already suspect Austin Meadows is never playing for us again, but that doesn’t mean we won’t pay him for another year next year via Baby Doc fiat.

[chasfh]

  On 6/15/2023 at 12:50 PM, RandyMarsh said:

Yeah doesnt waste time putting out feeler posts he just goes for the kill shot right away. 

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Lack of question mark is my favorite part

[Tigeraholic1]

  On 6/15/2023 at 1:18 PM, chasfh said:

Lack of question mark is my favorite part

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You guys do a bang up job in welcoming someone new to the forum btw........

[Jim Cowan]

  On 6/14/2023 at 11:22 PM, turbo t said:

How many people in here think hinch should be gone after this year. 

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Virtually no one I think.  What would be the point?

[Tiger337]

  On 6/14/2023 at 11:22 PM, turbo t said:

How many people in here think hinch should be gone after this year. 

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NICE FIRSTPOST I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GONE LAST YEAR AND ILLITCH NEEDS TO SPEND SOME MONEY OR SELL THE TEAM!!! ALSO FIRE HARVEY BAYEZ HE SUCKS!!! 

[RatkoVarda]

  On 6/15/2023 at 2:25 PM, Jim Cowan said:

Virtually no one I think.  What would be the point?

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the lollygaggers and the miscreants would understand that Harris means business and would start producing so they did not join Hinch on the next bus out of town to Loserville?

[RandyMarsh]

Seriously though if I felt the team lost respect for Hinch or didn't play hard for him then Id probably be fine firing him but I dont think that is the case.

Aside from some fluke incidents they seem to always bust their ass and fight as hard as they can but they just don't have the ability of their opponents.

[chasfh]

  On 6/15/2023 at 2:34 PM, Tiger337 said:

NICE FIRSTPOST I THINK HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GONE LAST YEAR AND ILLITCH NEEDS TO SPEND SOME MONEY OR SELL THE TEAM!!! ALSO FIRE HARVEY BAYEZ HE SUCKS!!! 

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Welcome to the forum! Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter!

[chasfh]

  On 6/15/2023 at 2:44 PM, RandyMarsh said:

Seriously though if I felt the team lost respect for Hinch or didn't play hard for him then Id probably be fine firing him but I dont think that is the case.

Aside from some fluke incidents they seem to always bust their ass and fight as hard as they can but they just don't have the ability of their opponents.

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I think the only people who have lost respect for Hinch as Tigers manager are frustrated fans. It's possible Miggy doesn't look up to Hinch, but then, Miggy probably doesn't look up to anybody. Otherwise, I'm guessing it's a lot of fans basically wishing Tiger players didn't respect Hinch so he'd get fired and we'd hire a manager they like while keeping the PBO who's currently working very closely with Hinch who was consulted in the hiring of the PBO.

[gehringer_2]

  On 6/15/2023 at 4:26 PM, chasfh said:

Miggy probably doesn't look up to anybody

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Miggy's favorite line is 'do my job,' If he believes that then you'd think he has a sense of working within the hierarchy, and to be fair, I can't remember him ever saying word one to bad mouth any current or even past Tiger manager.  I mean sure, he probably thinks, and is probably correct, that other players/coaches can't teach him much/anything, so he wouldn't look up to them in that sense = agreed there. But OTOH, he appears to be respectful of the role of his manager in the organizational sense if you take 'look up' in that meaning.

[HeyAbbott]

  On 6/15/2023 at 4:26 PM, chasfh said:

I think the only people who have lost respect for Hinch as Tigers manager are frustrated fans. It's possible Miggy doesn't look up to Hinch, but then, Miggy probably doesn't look up to anybody. Otherwise, I'm guessing it's a lot of fans basically wishing Tiger players didn't respect Hinch so he'd get fired and we'd hire a manager they like while keeping the PBO who's currently working very closely with Hinch who was consulted in the hiring of the PBO.

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Zepo Marx, in the movie "Horse Feathers" famously said, "To have a good football team, you have to have good football players." To which Groucho replied, "I think you're on to something."

That same sentiment applies to baseball.

[romad1]

Gawd, imagine what this team could have done with maybe two more years of Jim Leyland managing, Mike Illitch living and Dave Dombrowski presidenting.  

Like most Detroit things the new, unproven manager Brad Ausmus came in with unassailable propaganda behind him and many including me needed to hope he would be good.  He was not good.  The bad became awful as the Dombrowski era gave way to the Avila years. 

Now, we are here.  PLEASE BE GOOD Scott Harris.  Please don't be seeing this as a stepping stone for your real career objectives.   Please figure out how to make the sports business work in Detroit's market.  We aren't small.  Lots of money out there in those houses around all those lakes in the suburbs and up north.  Figure it out.  We aren't New England but we aren't nothing. 

[KL2]

  On 6/15/2023 at 6:01 PM, romad1 said:

Gawd, imagine what this team could have done with maybe two more years of Jim Leyland managing, Mike Illitch living and Dave Dombrowski presidenting.  

Like most Detroit things the new, unproven manager Brad Ausmus came in with unassailable propaganda behind him and many including me needed to hope he would be good.  He was not good.  The bad became awful as the Dombrowski era gave way to the Avila years. 

Now, we are here.  PLEASE BE GOOD Scott Harris.  Please don't be seeing this as a stepping stone for your real career objectives.   Please figure out how to make the sports business work in Detroit's market.  We aren't small.  Lots of money out there in those houses around all those lakes in the suburbs and up north.  Figure it out.  We aren't New England but we aren't nothing. 

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Dave hired Brad and Mike was still alive then. 

Edited June 15, 2023 by KL2

[romad1]

  On 6/15/2023 at 6:11 PM, KL2 said:

Dave hired Brad and Mike was still alive then. 

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Which is all the more sad because of the breakdown in the successful team that the Brad hire created.