chasfh Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 1 minute ago, Dave Christian said: They're going to be send a scarecrow wearing his jersey to bat in the five spot. I'm sure there's a scarecrow in Toledo we can scare up to play third for us. Johan Camargo qualifies as just such a scarecrow. And once that happens, we can rake A.J. when Camargo repeatedly trips over his own ****. Looking forward to that. Quote
kdog Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 Tork getting some cover for going 0-5...I don't have much to add to the discourse on him. He'll get another full season but even the best case scenario is a league average hitter with no defensive value. Quote
kdog Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 There are no miracles coming from Toledo...just another guy who probably will struggle. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, kdog said: Tork getting some cover for going 0-5...I don't have much to add to the discourse on him. He'll get another full season but even the best case scenario is a league average hitter with no defensive value. I don't agree. Tork has saved several errors with his excellent scoops of bad throws. 1 Quote
Tiger337 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, chasfh said: Or, alternatively, you throw the best guys out there you have available to you while you work behind the scenes to get better players on board, which, sad to say, isn't going to happen today, or tomorrow, or even Tuesday. How great would it be great if above-average major leaguers were available on the scrap heap. How about above replacement level? Quote
kdog Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I don't agree. Tork has saved several errors with his excellent scoops of bad throws. Good at scooping...bad at everything else. And it's first base. You have to hit to justify your spot. Quote
Tiger337 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 Sean Casey made good scopps at first base too. Quote
Tenacious D Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 Nevin? Really no improvement and he’s not a prospect or future contributor. Quote
Jim Cowan Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 Nevin isn't much, but there isn't anyone at Toledo right now who is. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 I know he's not doing much with the bat right now anyway, but has the idea of Malloy as the 3b of the future already foundered on the inadequacy of his glove? Does this team have anyone anywhere in the organization that knows how to scout the glove of a 3B candidate? Quote
Jim Cowan Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 13 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: I know he's not doing much with the bat right now anyway, but has the idea of Malloy as the 3b of the future already foundered on the inadequacy of his glove? Does this team have anyone anywhere in the organization that knows how to scout the glove of a 3B candidate? This would have been the ideal time to promote him if his bat had held up a bit better. Quote
chasfh Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 37 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: How about above replacement level? Maybe? Quote
Sports_Freak Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 47 minutes ago, kdog said: Good at scooping...bad at everything else. And it's first base. You have to hit to justify your spot. True. But it's really hard to give up on a 23 year old. Patience....it's not like he's blocking anyone. Unless they give Maton a 1st baseman glove....lol 2 Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: At least with Raburn you could see the flashes of high level play - there was a tease that if he just tamed the inconsistency (yeah you can call them brain freezes) with both the bat and the glove, there might have been a player in there. Maton may still some unexplored upside to his bat, but he hasn't given us a shred of evidence whatever he can be a competent 3B. First half Raburn was one of the worst ever Second half Raburn (when the team was too far gone to contend) was a good player. Nick is WORSE than first half Raburn. Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 52 minutes ago, kdog said: Good at scooping...bad at everything else. And it's first base. You have to hit to justify your spot. They don't have an actual first baseman anywhere near Toledo, do they? Just guys who can play first (without it being their main spot). Quote
SeattleMike Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: First half Raburn was one of the worst ever Second half Raburn (when the team was too far gone to contend) was a good player. Nick is WORSE than first half Raburn. Raburn OPSs last two months of two seasons Tigers were in pennant races: 2009: August OPS 957 September: 1108 2011: August 844 September: 1155 Quote
Tiger337 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 54 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said: Nevin isn't much, but there isn't anyone at Toledo right now who is. Camargo? He's not much, but he can play third and has a decent track record: .723 OPS in over 1,300 major league plate appearances. Quote
kdog Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 18 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: True. But it's really hard to give up on a 23 year old. Patience....it's not like he's blocking anyone. Unless they give Maton a 1st baseman glove....lol 2020 hurt him...he was probably rushed. But a college hitter taken 1-1 should farther along than this. He might turn it around. The inability to stack even 2-3 weeks of quality hitting is bad. It's a good 5 games and then two weeks of nothing. Quote
Sports_Freak Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 Is there a dome for the Ranger games? I mean..... Quote
Sports_Freak Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 15 minutes ago, kdog said: 2020 hurt him...he was probably rushed. But a college hitter taken 1-1 should farther along than this. He might turn it around. The inability to stack even 2-3 weeks of quality hitting is bad. It's a good 5 games and then two weeks of nothing. Oh, I agree. He's very inconsistent. We'll know what we have by the end of next season. I'm just not sure it's time to run him out of town yet. Quote
Jim Cowan Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Camargo? He's not much, but he can play third and has a decent track record: .723 OPS in over 1,300 major league plate appearances. Sold Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Is there a dome for the Ranger games? I mean..... Yes, they have a roof that lifts up 2 Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 The Rangers stadium is the ugliest-looking ballpark in MLB since Sick's Stadium. Quote
Dtrain72 Posted June 25, 2023 Posted June 25, 2023 55 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Camargo? He's not much, but he can play third and has a decent track record: .723 OPS in over 1,300 major league plate appearances. Hell, that's a 2023 Tiger all-star with them there numbers! Quote
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