Toddwert Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 You guys are viewing this season like they are trying to win the division…its a development year its been that from the beginning. Winning games and being competitive was just a bonus. 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:10 AM, AZTigersfan said: Down 7 runs at home and that’s a strike you call??? Smh Expand Yeah - Tichenor's been bad, really squeezed Manning to start the game and the ring up on Torkelson was ridiculous. 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:18 AM, Tigermojo said: I'm ok with Englert on the team. They were never going to contend but after he allows a few runs, why leave him out there to give up 7,8,9 runs? Expand If you think there's gonna be rain, seems like the smart play would be to consider an opener and bringing Manning in afterward. But there may be other considerations that we as fans don't realize, idk 1 Quote
Toddwert Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:20 AM, mtutiger said: If you think there's gonna be rain, seems like the smart play would be to consider an opener and bringing Manning in afterward. But there may be other considerations that we as fans don't realize, idk Expand From the radar it looked like the rain just blew up west of Detroit so i dont know how much they could predict what was going to happen Quote
1776 Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:20 AM, gehringer_2 said: Yeah - Tichenor's been bad, really squeezed Manning to start the game and the ring up on Torkelson was ridiculous. Expand I’ve attended several AAA games this season and I am all in on the ABS System at the MLB level. Perhaps one year of Challenge System and then roll out the ABS in 2025… Quote
AZTigersfan Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 Gotta send Javy with Miggy batting right? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:23 AM, Toddwert said: From the radar it looked like the rain just blew up west of Detroit so i dont know how much they could predict what was going to happen Expand Yeah - it never rained in Ann Arbor at all. Quote
kdog Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:17 AM, mtutiger said: If the general belief is that this team isn't going to make the playoffs, I guess I'm unclear as to why they wouldn't try to carry the Rule 5 guy for the rest of the year if they like his tools and want him to remain in the system. Expand I think we can quibble whether Englert is worth locking in a roster spot for the full season. But they don't have any real answers for pitching in Toledo..it's defensible. Quote
kdog Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:19 AM, Toddwert said: You guys are viewing this season like they are trying to win the division…its a development year its been that from the beginning. Winning games and being competitive was just a bonus. Expand I want the Twins or Guardians to win games so the Tigers don't delude themselves into thinking they are in a race. I'm sure Harris knows the talent on this roster is years away. It's easier to sell when you are 8 games out. 2 Quote
Longgone Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:04 AM, Toddwert said: He seems like nothing special but what do I know Expand I suspect he's dealing with some arm issue, his stuff is off. Quote
mtutiger Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:29 AM, kdog said: I think we can quibble whether Englert is worth locking in a roster spot for the full season. But they don't have any real answers for pitching in Toledo..it's defensible. Expand If he wasn't a Rule 5 pick, he wouldn't be worth a roster spot right now. But that is the sacrifice teams make... if they believe in his tools and aren't all in on making a run while 7 games out, there isn't a discussion to be had about dropping him. No matter what the bloggers at BYB think Quote
gehringer_2 Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:34 AM, Longgone said: I suspect he's dealing with some arm issue, his stuff is off. Expand His FB velocity has been on a long slow slide downward since opening day. Quote
SeattleMike Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:31 AM, kdog said: I want the Twins or Guardians to win games so the Tigers don't delude themselves into thinking they are in a race. I'm sure Harris knows the talent on this roster is years away. It's easier to sell when you are 8 games out. Expand Years away? That’s probably too negative. No one saw Baltimore’s 2022 resurgence. No one saw Texas’s this year. Two or three moves go the Tigers way and a couple of developmental successes and they could be competing in a year or two. 1 Quote
Toddwert Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:39 AM, SeattleMike said: Years away? That’s probably too negative. No one saw Baltimore’s 2022 resurgence. No one saw Texas’s this year. Two or three moves go the Tigers way and a couple of developmental successes and they could be competing in a year or two. Expand They dont have the talent in the minors that the Orioles have and Texas spent a lot of money to be good Quote
mtutiger Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:39 AM, SeattleMike said: Years away? That’s probably too negative. No one saw Baltimore’s 2022 resurgence. No one saw Texas’s this year. Two or three moves go the Tigers way and a couple of developmental successes and they could be competing in a year or two. Expand They also play in the AL Central, which lowers the bar to competition a bit. Quote
mtutiger Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 1:41 AM, Toddwert said: They dont have the talent in the minors that the Orioles have and Texas spent a lot of money to be good Expand Similar to the O's, Texas wouldn't be where they are right now without homegrown talent. Fwiw Quote
AZTigersfan Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 Woof Englert, then white, then Shreve. That makes it very difficult to win a game. Quote
Adullin Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 I was hoping that they sink or float. Looks like they made up their mind. Quote
mtutiger Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) On 7/23/2023 at 1:45 AM, Adullin said: I was hoping that they sink or float. Looks like they made up their mind. Expand Alternatively, maybe they just had a bad game today? Even the good teams have their ***es beat from time to time in this sport. Edited July 23, 2023 by mtutiger Quote
kdog Posted July 23, 2023 Posted July 23, 2023 There's a difference between AL Central good and actual good. 1 Quote
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