Motor City Sonics Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 You know Eagles fans were celebrating CJ's injury earlier today. I hear it's a Career-Ending injury, unless they can find a donor match for a knee replacement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Forgot to tag it but I saw a tweet or should I say "x" now that said Bridgewater was in the Lions camp today and their remains interest between the two parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Update on CJGJ. He's going to have to have one of the Js removed before he can play again. This is serious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 I need clarity on CJ's status before I lock in my Lions record prediction for the season. I've been flip flopping between 14-3 one day and 7-10 the next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 12 hours ago, lordstanley said: I need clarity on CJ's status before I lock in my Lions record prediction for the season. I've been flip flopping between 14-3 one day and 7-10 the next. I know they won’t be worse than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, TP_Fan said: I know they won’t be worse than last year. I agree …. until Goff breaks his leg next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1984Echoes Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 The question is: Does Teddy want to become primarily and only a backup at this stage of his career? From the Lions perspective, it's better to have him on board and learning the playbook ASAP, if they want him as primary backup. If Goff goes down, Teddy saves the season (in theory). Maybe Sudfeld is actually a pretty good backup. But there's no way for anyone to know that, even the coaching staff. For 100% comfort-level on having a backup that saves a season versus stumbles us out of the playoffs... money is on Bridgewater, not Sudfeld. But from Teddy's perspective, if he's stuck as a backup for right now, it's better for him to NOT sign at this point and see which team (Lions or otherwise) runs into a situation in which they need a season-saving QB like him to step in... I don't know how many playoff-level teams are out their that are uncomfortable with their backup QB situation... I don't think many as no one wants to lose a season to this type of situation... And the Lions may even be comfortable with where their QB room is at... but Teddy definitely adds a huge boost to the Lions' room if they can get him to sign on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 teddy is likely waiting for someone to get hurt in training camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, buddha said: teddy is likely waiting for someone to get hurt in training camp. Well that was an extremely efficient way of saying what I just said... Kudos for brevity! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 We are probably going to get to see like two or three quarters of Nate Sudfeld football on August 11th. Can't imagine Adrian Martinez will get more than a cursory glance, he's destined for the practice squad if he makes the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Coming soon to Allen Park. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 Gun to your head today, extend Goff or no? I say 3 years / $120M, $90M guaranteed. Just throwing out a number. Not sure what his deal will look like. But it won’t be small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 (edited) Yes, extend him sooner than later. If Lions brass truly believes in him, they should do it as soon as possible before the QB market inflates more and before the team becomes too good. He probably comes in at more than $40m/yr considering the Jones contract but we're talking $50m if he and the Lions have another successful season and they wait to extend him. Next offseason is a big one. St. Brown and Sewell will be extension eligible (do those right away), they'll need to make a decision on Goff's extension with free agency looming, Jonah Jackson decision (I'm leaning towards not extending him) and Gardner-Johnson and Moseley will be free agents. This is when the REAL work begins for Holmes. Edited July 27, 2023 by NYLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, TP_Fan said: Gun to your head today, extend Goff or no? I say 3 years / $120M, $90M guaranteed. Just throwing out a number. Not sure what his deal will look like. But it won’t be small. Gun to my head, yes. If I am Holmes and I have the choice though, I wait. Not that I don't have faith in him, but I want to see what I've got in Hooker first (even if just in practice), and I want to see how far Goff can get us this year. If he meets or surpasses expectations, he's going to get a monster deal, and he'll have earned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: Gun to my head, yes. If I am Holmes and I have the choice though, I wait. Not that I don't have faith in him, but I want to see what I've got in Hooker first (even if just in practice), and I want to see how far Goff can get us this year. If he meets or surpasses expectations, he's going to get a monster deal, and he'll have earned it. exactly. let him show last year wasnt a fluke. and then let him show it again after ben johnson leaves next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Tom Kennedy was waived today. Who will fill his shoes as the preseason darling to put up great stat lines against bad competition only to get cut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: Tom Kennedy was waived today. Who will fill his shoes as the preseason darling to put up great stat lines against bad competition only to get cut? trey quinn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I actually thought Kennedy showed quite well in his short stint with the Lions when the injuries piled up, he made some big catches to my recollection. This is an indication of improving talent level forcing out useful players. I wouldn't be shocked if he made his way back to the Lions practice squad if he makes it through waivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 On 7/27/2023 at 10:44 AM, TP_Fan said: Gun to your head today, extend Goff or no? I say 3 years / $120M, $90M guaranteed. Just throwing out a number. Not sure what his deal will look like. But it won’t be small. Yes, he has played like a top 7-10 QB the past year and a half. He's also proven that with a good set of offensive weapons and line around him, he can be apart of a team that goes to the Super Bowl. From a purely statistical standpoint Goff has proven with Ben Johnson and Dan Campbell that he is capable enough to play consistently good and winning football. If this team had any type of defense last year during the first half of the season they are probably a 10 win team and that's largely thanks to Goff and co on the offense along with Ben Johnson. I was so eager to chase Stafford out of town, waving around my stats about his record and stats against top 15 defenses, how he could never beat good teams, lost on the road, threw too many INTs, etc. I lost the forest for the trees. On the whole, Stafford was a good to very good starting QB and those are very hard to come by in the NFL. There's a reason why 15 or so teams are always caught in the QB carousel and we were not. I was so eager to run Stafford out of town and I got my wish. I won't do the same for Goff. A writer on the SideLion Report website had what I would believe to be a fair contract. Give Goff (pulled from the article) 3years (through 2027), $110 million ($36.66 million per year), $75 million (basically the first 2 years, as a practical matter) fully guaranteed at signing. Anything beyond 3 years would not have guaranteed money involved. I think that type of deal is fair and equitable for both sides, unless Goff wants a 5/6 years of guaranteed money. I'd have a much harder time doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 I'd be perfectly fine giving him that 3/120 with 90M guaranteed, in fact I think that would be ideal for both parties. Goff gets his guaranteed money and job security for the next few years and the Lions get stability and a really good QB without committing too many years to him if they choose to want to go in another direction in the not too distant future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 Only about 5 mins in and it is showing footage of the draft war room but it feels like it confirms that Gibbs was truly the guy they were targeting all along and that they view him as a receiver more than anything. *right after they trade back* Campbell: "This guy plays like a receiver" Sheila: "Gibbs?" Campbell: "So if we can pull this off(moving back and still getting him)" Sheila: "Yeah awesome" Campbell: "Oh my God yeah" Sheila: "Yeah it would be thrilling!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 I did watch the first 30 mins of that episode before I fell asleep last night. The entire part with Gibbs showed just how highly they had him rated. He was their guy. When the cardinals offer came in they were already saying, “will he be there still?” And the unbridled excitement, you could tell that is who they wanted. He isn’t just a RB. And they were both ready to pull the trigger on Jack Campbell. Talking heads were all over the lions after the first round, but it grew on a lot of people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 1 hour ago, RandyMarsh said: I'd be perfectly fine giving him that 3/120 with 90M guaranteed, in fact I think that would be ideal for both parties. Goff gets his guaranteed money and job security for the next few years and the Lions get stability and a really good QB without committing too many years to him if they choose to want to go in another direction in the not too distant future. I don't see any way he gets less than Daniel Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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