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1 minute ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

If Warde Manuel won't fire Harbaugh then Warde should be fired too.

well - same issue - Schlissel probably couldn't care less about the football program right about now. He's just been screwed over by the Regents. I really have a hard time seeing a scenario where he decides his last big public act is to fire Bo Jr.

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well - same issue - Schlissel probably couldn't care less about the football program right about now. He's just been screwed over by the Regents. I really have a hard time seeing a scenario where he decides his last big public act is to fire Warde and/or  Bo Jr.

opps - that was supposed to be an edit - ended up a repost - my bad...

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6 minutes ago, Kacie said:

I remember them showing the sidelines at one point during the 3rd quarter.  Mel Tucker had fire in his eyes and was stomping around the sidelines like a Boss and his team was soaking up his energy.  Switch over to Harbaugh and he's just crouched over with his mouth hanging open like he couldn't figure out what was going on.  I knew then it was over, even though Michigan still had the lead at the time.  

He got punked again, as he always does in big games.

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4 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I hate to be "that guy" but that overturned TD didn't do Michigan any favors either. The whole complexion of the game changes when you're up 3 possessions vs. 2 in the second half like what would've been the case if that call stood. Not excusing the collapse but when you're down 3 possessions teams often abandon the run game and force things, MSU didn't have to do that. 

Of course, they were jobbed.  Its always going to happen. 

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I'm not a Harbaugh faithful at all, I would definitely not oppose to him getting fired but lets not pretend like Michigan was this elite football program before he got here. They had lost 5+ games in 6 of the previous 7 seasons and Lost 3+ in 17 of the previous 20 seasons.  We've been like this for decades aside from a rare couple seasons. 

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20 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I hate to be "that guy" but that overturned TD didn't do Michigan any favors either. The whole complexion of the game changes when you're up 3 possessions vs. 2 in the second half like what would've been the case if that call stood. Not excusing the collapse but when you're down 3 possessions teams often abandon the run game and force things, MSU didn't have to do that. 

yep,  That was an unbelievable call that completely changed the game

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1 minute ago, RandyMarsh said:

I'm not a Harbaugh faithful at all, I would definitely not oppose to him getting fired but lets not pretend like Michigan was this elite football program before he got here. They had lost 5+ games in 6 of the previous 7 seasons and Lost 3+ in 17 of the previous 20 seasons.  We've been like this for decades aside from a rare couple seasons. 

this is correct. To be brutally honest, it has only been Tucker's success up I-96 which has raised the expectations for what MI have have been able to accomplish this season. 

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The tough thing is I don't know how they get out of this anytime soon. For the reasons above I doubt they are going to fire Harbaugh - he will be here until his deal is up after next season, and they are just getting further and further behind the recruiting 8 ball with all the big game and rivalry losses.

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1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said:

The tough thing is I don't know how they get out of this anytime soon. For the reasons above I doubt they are going to fire Harbaugh - he will be here until his deal is up after next season, and they are just getting further and further behind the recruiting 8 ball with all the big game and rivalry losses.

Worse yet, Fickell could end up somewhere else.

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17 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I'm not a Harbaugh faithful at all, I would definitely not oppose to him getting fired but lets not pretend like Michigan was this elite football program before he got here. They had lost 5+ games in 6 of the previous 7 seasons and Lost 3+ in 17 of the previous 20 seasons.  We've been like this for decades aside from a rare couple seasons. 

But Michigan used to regularly beat MSU and OSU.  Yeah, there have been lean years since the Lloyd Carr era ended, but it isn't like Harbaugh hasn't had years to build this program.  The slappies will be happy with the two or three loss season and the big wins over Nebraska and Indiana and a trip to the Citrus Bowl.

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1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

And just like that, a one-score game.................

When this happened and it was 30-22 I shut of my TV and went to Costco and did some shopping because I knew.  I just knew.  Came out to my car, checked my phone and there it was, 37-33.      

Never changes. 

Mel Tucker came into a program about as late as someone could last year.   Took over a depleted roster (after Dantonio had checked out two years prior), rebuilt it on the fly, used the transfer portal,  came into your house a 2 TD underdog and punched you in the mouth.  You went 1-3 the rest of the way and basically just quit playing because of COVID.    Year 2, gets punched in the mouth in the first half, stands right back up and gives you a beat down like Mickey Rourke's character in Barfly.   Coached circles around Harbaugh.   

Michigan hasn't won a must-win game since when, 2004?      Indy is out again.  The playoff is out again and they choked against a rival.   

Time for a major change.    But it won't happen

But that 1997 team and that 1948 team,  God damn those were great teams.   

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