08/19/2022 7:10 EDT Detroit Tigers at Cleveland Guardians

[casimir]

  

Detroit Tigers vs Cleveland Guardians

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[lordstanley]

Tigers content, kinduv, in today’s Times of London. 

[Dan Gilmore]

I remember it was a bat’s head-don’t see any denial of that! 🤨

[gehringer_2]

Just now, Dan Gilmore said:

I remember it was a bat’s head-don’t see any denial of that! 🤨

I thought the bat was Ozzie!

[Dan Gilmore]

Cannibalism?

[Jim Cowan]

I think Bert photoshopped  that D onto his vest.

[romad1]

Goodbye Eric Haase.  Wow.

[Tenacious D]

10 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Goodbye Eric Haase.  Wow.

For anyone who hasn’t heard

https://x.com/detroittigerspr/status/1692995789985882262?s=46

[gehringer_2]

Who is Carson Kelly? Sounds like he should have been the QB for Navy in '58

Edit: Couldn't hit in some call ups with the Cards, had a couple of over 100 OPS+ seasons with the D Backs. Bat slowed down last couple of years - also with some unlucky injuries - wrist fracture in '21, then an arm fracture this season. Lost his gig with the D_Backs who DFA'd him. He had enough service time to refuse and Tigers made the move.

Still under 30.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/08/d-backs-release-carson-kelly.html

Edited August 19, 2023 by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

We were wondering which catcher the Tigers were going to get in the off-season.  They got him already!  I was thinking the other day that the Tigers might get him when Arizone DFA him, but I lost interest when I saw his recent numbers.  Kelly was good in '19 and '21, but has not done anything since then.  He is younger that Haase and probably has a better chance of lucking into a decent offensive season next year.  

[gehringer_2]

2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

We were wondering which catcher the Tigers were going to get in the off-season.  They got him already!  I was thinking the other day that the Tigers might get him when Arizone DFA him, but I lost interest when I saw his recent numbers.  Kelly was good in '19 and '21, but has not done anything since then.  He is younger that Haase and probably has a better chance of lucking into a decent offensive season next year.  

Most hopeful reading would be the broken wrist messed up his hitting and that it might have healed better by now. OTOH it may have left a permanent deficit....

Tigs have him for the minimum for now, but his arb number could be high to keep him next season if he doesn't show much before this season ends.

Edited August 19, 2023 by gehringer_2

[SeattleMike]

3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

We were wondering which catcher the Tigers were going to get in the off-season.  They got him already!  I was thinking the other day that the Tigers might get him when Arizone DFA him, but I lost interest when I saw his recent numbers.  Kelly was good in '19 and '21, but has not done anything since then.  He is younger that Haase and probably has a better chance of lucking into a decent offensive season next year.  

Last month he has a 791 OPS, granted in only 34 PA. 

[Tiger337]

3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Most hopeful reading would be the broken wrist messed up his hitting and that it might have healed better by now. OTOH it may have left a permanent deficit....

Tigs have him for the minimum for now, but his arb number could be high to keep him next season if he doesn't show much before this season ends.

yeah, the injuries explain his poor numbers the last couple of seasons.  So, there is some hope for him.  

[Edman85]

5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

We were wondering which catcher the Tigers were going to get in the off-season.  They got him already!  I was thinking the other day that the Tigers might get him when Arizone DFA him, but I lost interest when I saw his recent numbers.  Kelly was good in '19 and '21, but has not done anything since then.  He is younger that Haase and probably has a better chance of lucking into a decent offensive season next year.  

They get him for the minimum the rest of this year, but would have to go through arbitration next year for a price tag of about 4-5 mil (because you can't decrease salaries too far in arb). I'd bet he's non-tendered.

[Tiger337]

Just now, Edman85 said:

They get him for the minimum the rest of this year, but would have to go through arbitration next year for a price tag of about 4-5 mil (because you can't decrease salaries too far in arb). I'd bet he's non-tendered.

He'd probably be worth that if he got back to his '19 and '21 performance, but there probably isn't enough time left this season to find out.   

[gehringer_2]

It has to be bummer to be let go this late in a season and I would normally call it kind of bad faith move this late in a season when they weren't going to make the playoffs, but they had no control of Kelly becoming available and Hasse  is out of options with the Tigers.

[gehringer_2]

3 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

They get him for the minimum the rest of this year, but would have to go through arbitration next year for a price tag of about 4-5 mil (because you can't decrease salaries too far in arb). I'd bet he's non-tendered.

Not like the Tigers haven't made stupid moves going too cheap on the catcher position before ( Alex Avila says "Hi" )

[gehringer_2]

8 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

They get him for the minimum the rest of this year, but would have to go through arbitration next year for a price tag of about 4-5 mil (because you can't decrease salaries too far in arb). I'd bet he's non-tendered.

 

6 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

He'd probably be worth that if he got back to his '19 and '21 performance, but there probably isn't enough time left this season to find out.   

Still might be  a good investment since Dingler and Crouch don't look like any kind of sure thing and the FA for catchers is usually poor.

Edited August 19, 2023 by gehringer_2

[Edman85]

Arb talk is moot. I bet the club option is below what he would get in arbitration, and I'm curious the terms.

Edited August 19, 2023 by Edman85

[HeyAbbott]

8 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

 

I like the move. I think the club under the Alivia years was too complacent regarding marginal performances.

[Edman85]

2 minutes ago, HeyAbbott said:

I like the move. I think the club under the Alivia years was too complacent regarding marginal performances.

I would argue the same has been true this year too.

[Toddwert]

In other news Chris McCoskey seen crying at a Cleveland coffee house

[Tigermojo]

Carpenter nailed it!

[Motor City Sonics]

Catch two no-hitters and 3 years and OUT.      Probably for the best.  His therapy was going nowhere.   Sucks for a local guy, but he could always re-sign.  

[mtutiger]

1 hour ago, Toddwert said:

In other news Chris McCoskey seen crying at a Cleveland coffee house

Alongside Evan Woodbery...