08/22/2023 6:40 pm EDT Chicago Cubs vs Detroit Tigers

[Tigermojo]

I didn't know Ibanez was putting on a fireworks show.

[gehringer_2]

Too many Tiger pitchers fall too much in love with their sliders. 

[chasfh]

This Meadows kid seems like he’s pretty good at baseball. 

[SoCalTiger]

Just a jog in the park. Defense wins games. 

[Tiger337]

3 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Just a jog in the park. Defense wins games. 

It makes pitchers better.  

[Jim Cowan]

When is Holton getting his statue at Comerica?

[Tiger337]

That Candelario guy is a pretty good hitter.  

[RandyMarsh]

Jeimer has definitely made himself alot of money with his performance this year. 

[tiger2022]

Pinch hitting for a guy who has two home runs?  Smartest guy in the room syndrome.

[Jim Cowan]

Just now, tiger2022 said:

Pinch hitting for a guy who has two home runs?  Smartest guy in the room syndrome.

Yes, it isn't as bad as it was at the start of the year, but it is still bad.  He only stopped doing it to Carpenter about a month ago.

[AZTigersfan]

Man, image where we’d be if we could actually hit with runners in scoring position. 

[Tigermojo]

[Jim Cowan]

Piece of cake.

[chasfh]

Lange succeeds at nailing high leverage situations. He'll be the guy next time, too.

[holygoat]

A mere bag of shells.

[lordstanley]

Tigers win. This has been an entertaining two games. 

[gehringer_2]

31 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

When is Holton getting his statue at Comerica?

He'll join the starting rotation in '24 and should be ready for the HOF in about '45

[Tiger337]

15 minutes ago, AZTigersfan said:

Man, image where we’d be if we could actually hit with runners in scoring position. 

They are batting .239 with RISP and .231 with the bases empty, so the real problem is not hitting enough in general.  They are starting to fix that though.  

Edited August 23, 2023 by Tiger337

[lordstanley]

Twins are 5 up on Cleveland and 7 up on the Tigers. All have 36 games to go. 

Wild prediction: the Twins will finish 3rd in the AL Central this season.

The collapse will be talked about for years. 

[Sports_Freak]

Parker at about 20 MPH 1st to 3rd.

[gehringer_2]

Hard to figure what to make of Olsen. Looked great for three innings, then bam. I thought a part of it was bad sequencing though   - too many sliders. I think teams/pitchers can get too hung up on spin rate. Spin is good because it make one pitch act differently than another, but it doesn't matter how good the break on your breaking ball is if you throw it so much the hitter can ignore the FB and sit on it - no matter how you spin it he will figure out where it is going to go if you give him enough chance to.  

[Motor City Sonics]

 

You think about two things.    That 2-9 start............even if it had just been 5-6 instead  and then that 9 game losing streak when Riley got hurt.  Even if they had gone 3-6 in that stretch (not great, Bob)...............geez, that's 6 games right there.   That 2-18 bit - even if they had gone a lousy 8-12, they'd be so close right now.   Very frustrating.   But the young bats are alive and I do think it's coaching. 

[SeattleMike]

26 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Hard to figure what to make of Olsen. Looked great for three innings, then bam. I thought a part of it was bad sequencing though   - too many sliders. I think teams/pitchers can get too hung up on spin rate. Spin is good because it make one pitch act differently than another, but it doesn't matter how good the break on your breaking ball is if you throw it so much the hitter can ignore the FB and sit on it - no matter how you spin it he will figure out where it is going to go if you give him enough chance to.  

I agree with many that the Tigers desperately need to add two starting pitchers this off-season, one if they extend Erod.

[casimir]

9 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

Jeimer has definitely made himself alot of money with his performance this year. 

Well, he's probably increased his value with this season on his baseball card vs coming into this season.  It'd be interesting to see what he can get in the offseason.  I suspect it's 2 seasons with a vesting/performance option for a 3rd.  His baseball card still has downs to go with the ups.

[casimir]

7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

Hard to figure what to make of Olsen. Looked great for three innings, then bam. I thought a part of it was bad sequencing though   - too many sliders. I think teams/pitchers can get too hung up on spin rate. Spin is good because it make one pitch act differently than another, but it doesn't matter how good the break on your breaking ball is if you throw it so much the hitter can ignore the FB and sit on it - no matter how you spin it he will figure out where it is going to go if you give him enough chance to.  

 

6 hours ago, SeattleMike said:

I agree with many that the Tigers desperately need to add two starting pitchers this off-season, one if they extend Erod.

Some of these younger arms look fine one time through the lineup, but that next look is a different story.  I don't know fi they need the experience with learning to pitch vs throw or maybe they are simply just relievers.  Relief would be fine, especially if they can go multiple innings.  But, yes, Harris is going to need to tend to the rotation.