08/25/2023 6:40 pm EDT Houston Astros vs Detroit Tigers

[AZTigersfan]

  On 8/25/2023 at 11:46 PM, Hart said:

Is there a stat that shows how good a first baseman is at picking bad throws?  It would be helpful in evaluating Torkelson's defense.  

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He’s definitely had more than his fair share of attempts at it. 

[Clinkeroo]

Or, Short flubbed two easy throws and a routine ground ball.

[Tiger337]

Torkelson leads the majors in scoops by a lot:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&month=0&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2023&season=2023&sortcol=15&sortdir=desc&pagenum=1

What this doesn't show is exactly how many opportunities he had to make scoops but failed, although I assume those would show up as errors much of the time. 

What it probably does show is that he had a lot of opportunities and was successful many times.  

[MIguy]

There is a stat that keeps track of "Scoops" made by the first baseman and Tork has the most.  I guess it could mean that since he apparently deals with the most bad throws it makes sense that he would have so many misses.   All I know is that he's second from last in fielding percentage for first basemen.   

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?lg=all&qual=y&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&season1=2023&season=2023&stats=fld&pos=1b&type=0&sortcol=20&sortdir=desc&pagenum=1

[AZTigersfan]

Ibanez curiously in the 2 spot refuses to walk. not a single strike thrown that entire AB. Smh

[MIguy]

  On 8/25/2023 at 11:54 PM, Tiger337 said:

Torkelson leads the majors in scoops by a lot:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=y&type=0&month=0&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2023&season=2023&sortcol=15&sortdir=desc&pagenum=1

What this doesn't show is exactly how many opportunities he had to make scoops but failed, although I assume those would show up as errors much of the time. 

What it probably does show is that he had a lot of opportunities and was successful many times.  

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A missed scoop would typically go down as an error on the person who threw it.  

[Tiger337]

  On 8/25/2023 at 11:56 PM, MIguy said:

There is a stat that keeps track of "Scoops" made by the first baseman and Tork has the most.  I guess it could mean that since he apparently deals with the most bad throws it makes sense that he would have so many misses.   All I know is that he's second from last in fielding percentage for first basemen.   

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?lg=all&qual=y&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&season1=2023&season=2023&stats=fld&pos=1b&type=0&sortcol=20&sortdir=desc&pagenum=1

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FP% makes a little more sense at 1B than other positions (where it's not very useful), but there is not much variation in FP% for first basemen.  They all are between 99.1% and 99.9%.  

[Tiger337]

  On 8/25/2023 at 11:58 PM, MIguy said:

A missed scoop would typically go down as an error on the person who threw it.  

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As it should...

But I am biased because I was a first baseman for many years as a kid!

[Tigermojo]

Manning rubbing his lower right back gets pulled. Love handle-itis unofficially.

[MIguy]

I haven't been paying attention apparently, had no idea we were being no hit.

 

Did you hear that?  The Tigers are currently being NO HIT!!!

 

NO HITTER!!!!

[romad1]

Giant zone

[MIguy]

Baez complaining about an obvious strike.   

[MIguy]

Ahhhh it's about the pitch clock.  Ump is missing obvious violations.  

[SoCalTiger]

  On 8/25/2023 at 11:42 PM, AZTigersfan said:

I don’t know, the Tork hate is a little over the top imo. He’s improving every phase of his game, but I guess patience is in short supply. To each their own I suppose. 

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Nobody hates Tork. We want him to do well. Just saying what we see as fans. 

[AZTigersfan]

Javy with a clutch hit! Is that even proper grammar?

[chasfh]

Javy!

What was Presley thinking!!

[chasfh]

PARKER MEADOWS!!! First big league homer is a walkoff!!!

[AZTigersfan]

  On 8/26/2023 at 12:46 AM, SoCalTiger said:

Nobody hates Tork. We want him to do well. Just saying what we see as fans. 

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I don’t think that’s necessarily true. However, maybe hate is too strong a word. People are obviously overly critical of a 23 year old we rushed to the majors. 

[Tigermojo]

[MichiganCardinal]

Personally, I never had a doubt.

[AZTigersfan]

What an absolute amazing moment for that kid! Man if he, and the other young bucks, keep developing our offense might actually have a chance to be decent next year and beyond! 

[Sports_Freak]

An understatement;

That was kinda exciting.

[MIguy]

That bottom of the ninth felt like a playoff game.  

 

1-0 since the whales were set free.   

[Jim Cowan]

A combined 1-hitter, with only an unearned run.

[Tiger337]

Wow, I was not expecting that kind of finish tonight!