LongLiveMaroth Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 52 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Interesting... that sounds like an A.J. Preller move... kind of surprised no one has done this before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 This is the first draft in at least a dozen years that I’m unengaged. I really have no idea who any of these draftees are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 2 hours ago, Tenacious D said: This is the first draft in at least a dozen years that I’m unengaged. I really have no idea who any of these draftees are. I guess that’s progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) Another week and another drop of 2 mocks. An interesting tidbit from Law is there are an assumed 11 players that are a tier above the others we pick 11th so I guess that's good 🤷♂️ also "I’ve had national cross-checkers, scouting directors, and even a GM comment to me on what a mess the draft is after the first echelon of players is off the board." https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2024-mock-draft-mid-may https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5490480/2024/05/15/mlb-mock-draft-2024-travis-bazzana-charlie-condon/ Pipeline: Yesavage Athletic: Rainer 11. Detroit Tigers: Bryce Rainer, SS, Harvard-Westlake (Studio City, Calif.) There’s a dashed line of sorts between the top-11 players in the class and everyone else, not a huge dropoff but enough that I’m assuming the Tigers will just take whichever guy is left in that group rather than doing a deal with someone else. Edited May 17 by LongLiveMaroth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Ive seen some mocks that have us taking college OF Honeycutt from NC. He's got a nice collection of tools including 60 power and speed...but I don't think a 28% k rate will fly with the Tigers current mgmnt. Rainer would be nice if he's still there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted May 18 Author Share Posted May 18 But also... Someone in the top 10 will reach for a guy who isn't. No guarantees, but it always seems to happen. And if it does, we'll have a choice between the 11th guy and maybe 1 or 2 others in the top-11 where there's that "huge" drop off after the 11 top guys. I'm not certain which 2 (or 3) guys I want to be available at 11 if that were to happen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 6 hours ago, Shinzaki said: Ive seen some mocks that have us taking college OF Honeycutt from NC. He's got a nice collection of tools including 60 power and speed...but I don't think a 28% k rate will fly with the Tigers current mgmnt. Rainer would be nice if he's still there. I like the idea of drafting up the middle if the choices aren't too much of a reach. SS, CF, SP, C. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-s-top-200-draft-prospects-for-2024?t=mlb-draft-coverage This caught my eye when reading through this. Clearly not considered a great draft class this year. How would you grade out this Draft class on a 20-to-80 scouting scale? Average: 44.6 (25 votes total) 40: 11 50: 7 45: 4 30: 1 55: 1 60: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 I prefer Griffin here and it seems Lomavita does not fit the control-the-zone narrative so I would be surprised with him as the pick. https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/40233926/2024-mlb-mock-draft-kiley-mcdaniel-first-pick-projection-guardians 11. Detroit Tigers Caleb Lomavita, C, Cal Lomavita has a lot of late helium into this area and probably goes somewhere between Nos. 8-17. He has plus tools, but his weakness is his chase rate, something that teams have had some success improving in pro ball. Cam Caminiti is a real factor here, as is Trey Yesavage (who recently suffered a partially collapsed lung that teams are still learning about). I also can't rule out Griffin, as Detroit isn't scared to take a prep player early. Detroit figures to have a number of solid options and could go with any of the four major player categories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, LongLiveMaroth said: I prefer Griffin here and it seems Lomavita does not fit the control-the-zone narrative so I would be surprised with him as the pick. https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/40233926/2024-mlb-mock-draft-kiley-mcdaniel-first-pick-projection-guardians 11. Detroit Tigers Caleb Lomavita, C, Cal Lomavita has a lot of late helium into this area and probably goes somewhere between Nos. 8-17. He has plus tools, but his weakness is his chase rate, something that teams have had some success improving in pro ball. Cam Caminiti is a real factor here, as is Trey Yesavage (who recently suffered a partially collapsed lung that teams are still learning about). I also can't rule out Griffin, as Detroit isn't scared to take a prep player early. Detroit figures to have a number of solid options and could go with any of the four major player categories. Seems like bad news if Yesavage is dropping. There were 11 clear top picks. If Griffin does fall out of the top ten, I'd be ok with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 what about Cam Smith 3B out of FSU? i'd like to see a catcher or a SS, I feel like they can develope Pitchers out of the later rounds 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/2024-mlb-mock-draft-3-0-updated-first-round-ahead-of-ncaa-tournament/ BA has us taking Yesavage in their latest mock. 11. Tigers — Trey Yesavage, RHP, ECU Injury was about the only thing that could slow Yesavage down this season. He dealt with a punctured lung that kept him off the mound in the ACC tournament and caused a bit of a scare, though it sounds like he should be able to pitch in this weekend’s Greenville regional, where a matchup with Chase Burns is possible. Yesavage has pitched his way into the consensus No. 3 pitcher slot in this class. I’ve yet to hear anyone say that this injury has removed that status. This is about the range where high school pitchers could seem like real options. Pipeline has us taking Caminiti https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2024-mock-draft-may-30?t=mlb-draft-coverage 11. Tigers: Cam Caminiti, LHP, Saguaro HS, Ariz. (No. 17) As of right now, this seems to be the ceiling for the young lefty in Arizona who got the most votes in our executive survey as the best prep pitcher in the class. Edited May 31 by LongLiveMaroth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 I dont see Harris drafting a prep pitcher in first round but I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Everybody is going to call him Cam Cam. No thanks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 8 minutes ago, Toddwert said: I dont see Harris drafting a prep pitcher in first round but I could be wrong So from my understanding, it isn't Harris really who makes all of those decisions, I am sure he has final say/is consulted but I am guessing he relies on his scouts and mainly his Director of Amateur Scouting Mark Conner to make those decisions and I know Rob Meltzer was pretty influential in the past but he has been promoted so not sure there. That being said Conner comes from San Diego and they have never been shy about selecting prep pitchers so I wouldn't be super shocked by it but we know they can mold pitchers pretty well and bring them up so generally I would prefer a bat of some sort but that's just my preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Someone in the top ten will blink and a good hitter will drop to the Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 22 hours ago, Toddwert said: what about Cam Smith 3B out of FSU? i'd like to see a catcher or a SS, I feel like they can develope Pitchers out of the later rounds If we are talking FSU guys I wouldn't be surprised to see James Tibbs getting some thought here. He has more home runs than strikeouts this year and has had some helium lately so he fits the expected mold but he is limited to LF or possibly 1B so that is a drawback for a "complete player". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 5 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: Someone in the top ten will blink and a good hitter will drop to the Tigers. I am sure you are right, someone will get cute with signing under-slot and floating someone to a later round. Miss when the draft was early June vs July so you could watch some of the college players who had been drafted in the CWS etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 35 minutes ago, Tigermojo said: Someone in the top ten will blink and a good hitter will drop to the Tigers. just hope they dont have a deal already set with someone else 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 Update Pipeline Mock has us taking Griffin which I would be thrilled with. https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2024-mock-draft-june-6?t=mlb-draft-coverage I won't post it here because I have heard some accusations about him and plagiarism but one of the more prominent draft guys did a podcast with Jim Callis around the Tigers and expectations around 11 and I will save you all from having to listen to it and let you know what kind of came out of it. Depending on how the board falls do not be surprised if Cam Caminiti gets picked by us, Mark Conner and Rob Meltzer have been seen at many of his games along with a handful of cross-checkers so there is certainly smoke there, I doubt it would happen but I would love to float him to 49 if we can sign someone else below slot at 11. They have also seemed pretty interested in Chase Harlan out of Pennslyvania. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 4 hours ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Update Pipeline Mock has us taking Griffin which I would be thrilled with. https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2024-mock-draft-june-6?t=mlb-draft-coverage I won't post it here because I have heard some accusations about him and plagiarism but one of the more prominent draft guys did a podcast with Jim Callis around the Tigers and expectations around 11 and I will save you all from having to listen to it and let you know what kind of came out of it. Depending on how the board falls do not be surprised if Cam Caminiti gets picked by us, Mark Conner and Rob Meltzer have been seen at many of his games along with a handful of cross-checkers so there is certainly smoke there, I doubt it would happen but I would love to float him to 49 if we can sign someone else below slot at 11. They have also seemed pretty interested in Chase Harlan out of Pennslyvania. Griffin would be the best case scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Another week another pipeline mock. We are about one month out. https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-pipeline-2024-mock-draft-june-13?t=mlb-pipeline-coverage 11. Tigers: Cam Caminiti, LHP, Saguaro HS, Ariz. (No. 17) While they might entertain one of the hitters already off the board should they still be available, there has been more talk about arms here, with Caminiti, the top prep lefty in the class, getting the nod over a college pitcher like Trey Yesavage from East Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger2022 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I'm hoping for a pitcher who dominated in college but has below average velocity. Let's get him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 I really don’t care who we draft—have not been engaged in this group. Initial successful results with Clark and McGonigle have me optimistic that they know what they are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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