Sports_Freak Posted Saturday at 12:31 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:31 AM On 6/27/2024 at 6:22 PM, Longgone said: Likely every other team in baseball would have taken Tork 1-1 also, and if he was hitting and fielding like he appeared capable, you’d be fine with it. But the Tigers did try to move Tork to 3rd base. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Saturday at 12:35 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:35 AM 6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Most orgs have enough guys that start at 3B and don't have the arm or as MIF and simply outgrow their quickness that they don't have trouble finding guys to move to 1st in the natural course of things. That said, with the National league adopting the DH, more than ever there is always a place for a great bat That’s Tork’s only hope anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Saturday at 12:35 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:35 AM 4 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: But the Tigers did try to move Tork to 3rd base. You forgot “inexplicably”. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted Saturday at 12:38 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:38 AM Just now, chasfh said: You forgot “inexplicably”. Did he play 3rd in college? Or were the Tigers just trying to save face of not being so stupid to take a 1st baseman 1-1, even if he WAS considered the best player in the Covid draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted Saturday at 12:39 AM Share Posted Saturday at 12:39 AM 3 minutes ago, chasfh said: That’s Tork’s only hope anymore. I see him going to another team as a DH project if Detroit doesn't work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Saturday at 01:02 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:02 AM 23 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: Did he play 3rd in college? Or were the Tigers just trying to save face of not being so stupid to take a 1st baseman 1-1, even if he WAS considered the best player in the Covid draft? Not a lick. Not even at Cape Cod. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Saturday at 01:02 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:02 AM 22 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I see him going to another team as a DH project if Detroit doesn't work out. He’s going to have to prove he can hit some first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted Saturday at 01:15 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:15 AM 10 minutes ago, chasfh said: He’s going to have to prove he can hit some first. I meant if he doesn't hit enough for Detroit (low bar), a different team may give him a chance to DH for them. But yeah, he has to hit to keep playing (at least, for most teams.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted Saturday at 01:18 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:18 AM 1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said: I meant if he doesn't hit enough for Detroit (low bar), a different team may give him a chance to DH for them. But yeah, he has to hit to keep playing (at least, for most teams.) That would require us to release Tork or accept a bag of balls for him. But I guess at a certain point he becomes a sunk cost anyway. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted Saturday at 01:27 AM Share Posted Saturday at 01:27 AM 47 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I see him going to another team as a DH project if Detroit doesn't work out. he cant hit. why would anyone want him as a dh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted Saturday at 03:59 AM Share Posted Saturday at 03:59 AM 2 hours ago, buddha said: he cant hit. why would anyone want him as a dh? Because he's still young and has potential. I would think many teams would claim him if he were released. Stick him in their minor leagues and try to "fix" him. Look at some of the players Harris is claiming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted Saturday at 12:43 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 12:43 PM Looks like we're going to have to do this AGAIN, for at least one more year (watch the season ending losses to figure out where in the top 10 of next year's draft that we'll have a chance at getting to...). Sad. 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAbbott Posted Saturday at 01:11 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:11 PM 11 hours ago, chasfh said: That would require us to release Tork or accept a bag of balls for him. But I guess at a certain point he becomes a sunk cost anyway. 🤷♂️ If you pay 10 million dollars for a race horse, and the horse dies, at the end of the day you're left with a dead horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted Saturday at 01:20 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:20 PM 11 hours ago, buddha said: he cant hit. why would anyone want him as a dh? He can hit. He has the ability. Does he need to make some adjustments, sure. Will he? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted Saturday at 01:52 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:52 PM 37 minutes ago, HeyAbbott said: If you pay 10 million dollars for a race horse, and the horse dies, at the end of the day you're left with a dead horse. And that’s when you make lemonade, or in this case, beat that horse every chance you get. Do it, do it now. 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted Saturday at 02:13 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:13 PM One thing Avila and Smith had in common is they had to take over at a time when bills were coming due for expensive teams that fell short. I'm not saying they could have done better on the 2017 trades, but there is ample evidence those were owner-mandated (and perhaps league-mandated via the debt service rule) salary dump trades for a team that was bleeding money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted Saturday at 02:52 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:52 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Longgone said: He can hit. He has the ability. Does he need to make some adjustments, sure. Will he? Who knows. Yup - the thing with Tork is that you do get the impression that enough of his problem is approach that if the right voice could get in his ear, he might finally wise up. But for me this is also hitting on a more fundamental issue with the Tigers. This regime came in pushing the idea of cutting down on OOZ swing - and that's fine as far as it goes. But Hinch gave away the dirty secret the other day in the post game - the Tigers real hitting problem is getting beat *in the strike zone*. Overcoming that problem is a completely different animal than just preaching plate discipline - it's finding a way to help guys cover/defend more of the K zone. The question is what do they have in their bag of tricks for their hitters in that regard? Edited Saturday at 02:58 PM by gehringer_2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAbbott Posted Saturday at 02:55 PM Share Posted Saturday at 02:55 PM 59 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said: And that’s when you make lemonade, or in this case, beat that horse every chance you get. Do it, do it now. 😎 In Torkelson's case, the only reason one tries is realistically it doesn't block anyone else from being developed. In my mind, the moment a prospect arrives that continued efforts with Tork would hinder the new guy's development, Is the moment I would send Tork packing. He is what he is: a failed number 1 prospect. It happens all of the time in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted yesterday at 12:37 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:37 PM 23 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Looks like we're going to have to do this AGAIN, for at least one more year (watch the season ending losses to figure out where in the top 10 of next year's draft that we'll have a chance at getting to...). Sad. 😒 PS: As an aside... We're currently tied with the Rangers for #6. I'll revisit this in September... with 2025's Draft thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted yesterday at 12:40 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:40 PM https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10125901-mlb-mock-draft-2024-picks-for-each-1st-round-selection-post-college-world-series Had us selecting Braden Montgomery but I find it hard to see him drop that far even with the ankle injury he got during the CWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted yesterday at 12:51 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:51 PM 23 hours ago, HeyAbbott said: If you pay 10 million dollars for a race horse, and the horse dies, at the end of the day you're left with a dead horse. This should be on a bumper sticker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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