NBA Info - September 2023

[Deleterious]

The Porter Jr. accusations are ugly.  Things I read in various articles:

He started beating her while she was asleep.

He broke one of her vertebra.

He didn't stop until she ran into the hotel hallway covered in blood.

[buddha]

he fell in the draft due to character concerns.  he's been dealt once already.  he's a selfish cancer on the court.

in the end, the pistons got good value for dealing that pick!  lol.

[Betrayer]

17 hours ago, Deleterious said:

The Porter Jr. accusations are ugly.  Things I read in various articles:

He started beating her while she was asleep.

He broke one of her vertebra.

He didn't stop until she ran into the hotel hallway covered in blood.

Scary stuff. Apparently he broke her vertebrae by choking her. They might call that assault but choking someone until their neck breaks sounds a lot like attempted murder.

Sickening that Bridges is back in the league, and unless the league takes a stand I'm sure KPJ will be back in the league at some point as well. It's all about the money.

[buddha]

they wont be in the league if theyre in jail.  the criminal justice system should put them in jail.

[Betrayer]

3 hours ago, buddha said:

they wont be in the league if theyre in jail.  the criminal justice system should put them in jail.

It should, but Bridges is back with the Hornets and he'll play this season after a 10 game suspension to start the year. I'm not expecting anything different from the KPJ case.

[buddha]

23 minutes ago, Betrayer said:

It should, but Bridges is back with the Hornets and he'll play this season after a 10 game suspension to start the year. I'm not expecting anything different from the KPJ case.

i dont have an issue with people who have been accused of crimes being able to ply their trade and earn a living.  if he is convicted he should go to jail.  when he gets out he should be able to work again.  i believe that for anyone in society convicted of crimes (especially when they've just been accused of a crime) including athletes.  people can redeem themselves and deserve second chances.

i also realize that organizations need to consider the safety of their other employees and organizational culture.  sometimes people like porter are just really bad eggs who ruin everything.  in fact, i think porter probably is that type of player and if i were the rockets, this would be a great opportunity to rid myself of a turbulent player.  but on principal, i dont think a conviction - and certainly not an accusation, remember derrick rose's "rape" allegation? - is a reason to fire someone and ban him from working in his chosen profession.

i realize i am very much in the minority on this issue.  lol.

[Deleterious]

The Pistons should absolutely offer Bagley here.  Porter's contract is not guaranteed until opening night.  So they could make the trade and cut him to get out of the Bagley deal and create more cap space next summer.

 

[buddha]

a season without bagley and wiseman would be a wonderful season indeed.

[Deleterious]

I'm terrified Wiseman has a contract year and then Weaver does something stupid that makes me curse at the TV for the next 3 to 5 years.

[buddha]

the last thing i am worried about is james wiseman playing well.

i am more worried about wiseman continuing to be stupid and a drag on the team and weaver STILL giving him a contract extension because of his "potential."

[casimir]

I'm worried I'll wake up one day with a 100 MPH heater and pinpoint pitching precision to match.

[Betrayer]

17 hours ago, buddha said:

i dont have an issue with people who have been accused of crimes being able to ply their trade and earn a living.  if he is convicted he should go to jail.  when he gets out he should be able to work again.  i believe that for anyone in society convicted of crimes (especially when they've just been accused of a crime) including athletes.  people can redeem themselves and deserve second chances.

i also realize that organizations need to consider the safety of their other employees and organizational culture.  sometimes people like porter are just really bad eggs who ruin everything.  in fact, i think porter probably is that type of player and if i were the rockets, this would be a great opportunity to rid myself of a turbulent player.  but on principal, i dont think a conviction - and certainly not an accusation, remember derrick rose's "rape" allegation? - is a reason to fire someone and ban him from working in his chosen profession.

i realize i am very much in the minority on this issue.  lol.

Oh, I completely agree that people who do their time should be able to get a second chance. My issue is that I don't think either of these players will (or have) "done their time" because of who they are and the fact that the NBA is all about the bottom line. I also think that when your job is a very public one, where people look up to you and you carry the reputation of the company on your shoulders, the company should go out of its way to make a statement about zero tolerance on issues like this that seem to be a recurring problem with athletes.

Edited September 14, 2023 by Betrayer

[buddha]

17 minutes ago, Betrayer said:

Oh, I completely agree that people who do their time should be able to get a second chance. My issue is that I don't think either of these players will (or have) "done their time" because of who they are and the fact that the NBA is all about the bottom line. I also think that when your job is a very public one, where people look up to you and you carry the reputation of the company on your shoulders, the company should go out of its way to make a statement about zero tolerance on issues like this that seem to be a recurring problem with athletes.

those are all good points.

[Deleterious]

This is why you don't get convictions.  The league is sort of handcuffed on punishment without a conviction.

Kysre Gondrezick’s lawyer warns of ‘misleading’ info in Kevin Porter hotel assault case

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The source familiar with the former WNBA player told us that Gondrezick, “has not given a statement to [law enforcement], and complained to them that what’s being attributed to her is inaccurate and to stop it. These are not her words.”

Robert Hantman, an attorney for Gondrezick, told The Post exclusively in a statement on Wednesday morning: “Ms. Gondrezick wants to express her deep appreciation for the public’s support and prayers. In regards to our client, much that has been written in the press attributing statements to her are misleading and inaccurate. She has not granted nor released any statements on her own volition.”

The statement further adds, “She asks everyone to respect her privacy and avoid speculation as to what occurred and refrain from disclosing any misleading statements as to Mr. Porter. She asks that the press and all officials refrain from any judgment and speculation on this matter which will be rectified properly and with integrity. Thank you!”

 

[buddha]

55 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

This is why you don't get convictions.  The league is sort of handcuffed on punishment without a conviction.

Kysre Gondrezick’s lawyer warns of ‘misleading’ info in Kevin Porter hotel assault case

 

tina turner used to defend ike too.

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[casimir]

9 hours ago, Deleterious said:

 

Chet who?

[Betrayer]

4 hours ago, casimir said:

Chet who?

Mr Glass

Unfortunately the 65 game minimum for winning NBA season awards doesn't extend to the Rookie of the Year. Odd choice.

Edited September 21, 2023 by Betrayer

[Deleterious]

I usually do not bet futures.  But Chet would be my pick probably.  His team will win.  That shouldn't matter, but voters show a bias towards winners, see Scottie Barnes.  Chet will also be in a great spot by being the 4th or 5th best player.  He gives up touches but will get a ton of quality looks Victor wont based on teammates.  

Both guys could also be on IR by Thanksgiving.  

[Deleterious]

So, wait.  Nobody wants to give up the farm for an old, undersized, chucker that plays no defense and has a massive contract for the next 4 years? 

 

[Betrayer]

18 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

So, wait.  Nobody wants to give up the farm for an old, undersized, chucker that plays no defense and has a massive contract for the next 4 years? 

 

Also, only averaging 55 games played the past 4 seasons.

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

Good marketing.  They probably don't sell out anyway.  Might as well have two people there paying for parking, beer, snacks, and possibly team merchandise.