09/19/2023 10:10pm EDT Detroit Tigers vs Los Angeles Dodgers

[casimir]

  

Detroit Tigers vs Los Angeles Dodgers

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[AZTigersfan]

Tork bomb!!! 1 away from 30!!!

[Motor City Sonics]

Riley's gonna get TJ, isn't he?   We're gonna lose him for all of '24, aren't we?  

[lordstanley]

24 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Riley's gonna get TJ, isn't he?   We're gonna lose him for all of '24, aren't we?  

I don't think TJ means as long away for position pitchers as it does for pitchers. May be wrong though.

2-1 Tigers after 6.

[lordstanley]

17 hours ago, casimir said:

  

Detroit Tigers vs Los Angeles Dodgers

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Made me wonder how many other well-known players have played for both the Tigers and Dodgers. I Google'd it. 167 players have played for both teams, with Brad Ausmus and Curtis Granderson being two recognizable ones.

[Tenacious D]

9 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

I don't think TJ means as long away for position pitchers as it does for pitchers. May be wrong though.

2-1 Tigers after 6.

Harper came back early as a DH.  I could see Greene doing that, too.

[lordstanley]

The Tigers blow a big chance to extend the lead in the 7th. Runners on 1st and 3rd with 0 outs. But a play at the plate kills the rally.

[gehringer_2]

16 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

The Tigers blow a big chance to extend the lead in the 7th. Runners on 1st and 3rd with 0 outs. But a play at the plate kills the rally.

yeah - something wrong on that bunt. If it was a suicide Baddoo broke way too late, and if it was a safety squeeze he should have stayed put.

[lordstanley]

Lange bidding for a 4-out save. 

[lordstanley]

Just now, lordstanley said:

Lange bidding for a 4-out save. 

Or a 0-out blown save. 

[gehringer_2]

Hinch pulls Foley for Lange, who promptly gives up a double, walk, 

2 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Lange bidding for a 4-out save. 

Make that a BS.

Edited September 20, 2023 by gehringer_2

[lordstanley]

With his single tonight …

 

[lordstanley]

15 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Hinch pulls Foley for Lange, who promptly gives up a double, walk, 

Make that a BS.

And a loss too! Dodgers 3 Tigers 2, final. 

[TigersForever1256]

Parker Meadows definitely needs to be in CF now and in the future. His strides allow him to make plays on his feet that Greene has to lay himself out for.

[gehringer_2]

I was glad to hear the other day from Hinch that he has complete faith in Lange, even if it is completely unjustified.

[casimir]

4 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

I was glad to hear the other day from Hinch that he has complete faith in Lange, even if it is completely unjustified.

I want to use 3 of the 4 emojis on this one.

[RandyMarsh]

6 hours ago, lordstanley said:

With his single tonight …

 

Unlikely but not impossible for him to catch Cal if he has a monster finish to the season. Idk its only 1 spot higher just seems alot cooler to say you are in the top 15 all time vs. Number 16.

[chasfh]

7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

I was glad to hear the other day from Hinch that he has complete faith in Lange, even if it is completely unjustified.

Not sure what else he would say publicly.

[gehringer_2]

21 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Not sure what else he would say publicly.

Oh - he could have said a lot of things. He might have said something like  "We know  Lange has been fighting it and we'll try to reduce his leverage until he rights the ship" which is not unlike things he has said about other relievers who have had struggles in the past. 

For me it's mostly that I think they are oversold on Lange's repertoire. I go back to what I have always believed. It doesn't matter how much your breaking ball breaks (i.e. how well you spin) if you let any MLB hitter see enough of it and know when to expect it, they can hit it or learn to take it.  You have to be able to throw your fast ball (or something else) too, and Lange can't right now.

I think the org tends to be oversold on spin for the sake of spin on a particular pitch instead of spin as a tool to create variation between pitches.

Edited September 20, 2023 by gehringer_2

[RatkoVarda]

after they sign Josh Hader, we won't see much of Lange in the 9th

[chasfh]

12 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Oh - he could have said a lot of things. He might have said something like  "We know  Lange has been fighting it and we'll try to reduce his leverage until he rights the ship" which is not unlike things he has said about other relievers who have had struggles in the past. 

For me it's mostly that I think they are oversold on Lange's repertoire. I go back to what I have always believed. It doesn't matter how much your breaking ball breaks (i.e. how well you spin) if you let any MLB hitter see enough of it and know when to expect it, they can hit it.  You have to be able to throw your fast ball (or something else) too, and Lange can't any more.

I think the org tends to be oversold on spin for the sake of spin on a particular pitch instead of spin as a tool to create variation between pitches.

I’m pretty sure Hinch knows a lot better than we do what the state of Lange’s repertoire is, so I doubt we have a better idea of what Hinch knows about it than he himself does. I would bet Hinch measures his public comments carefully to elicit the optimum response from his own players. I wouldn’t doubt that unlike Avila, who told everyone exactly what was going on in his head, Hinch has a somewhat different, or at least more shaded, view of Lange’s repertoire and his future prospects with the team then he is telling us through the media.

Edited September 20, 2023 by chasfh

[Tiger337]

10 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

Oh - he could have said a lot of things. He might have said something like  "We know  Lange has been fighting it and we'll try to reduce his leverage until he rights the ship" which is not unlike things he has said about other relievers who have had struggles in the past. 

For me it's mostly that I think they are oversold on Lange's repertoire. I go back to what I have always believed. It doesn't matter how much your breaking ball breaks (i.e. how well you spin) if you let any MLB hitter see enough of it and know when to expect it, they can hit it or learn to take it.  You have to be able to throw your fast ball (or something else) too, and Lange can't any more.

I think the org tends to be oversold on spin for the sake of spin on a particular pitch instead of spin as a tool to create variation between pitches.

That's the thing with relievers.  They become relievers because they don't have enough pitches to start.  They can get away with that in short inning stints for a while, but they tend not to peak very long.  

[Sports_Freak]

Tigers BP blew another game. I never would have guessed it. /s

[gehringer_2]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

I’m pretty sure Hinch knows a lot better than we do what the state of Lange’s repertoire is, so I doubt we have a better idea of what Hinch knows about it than he himself does. I would bet Hinch measures his public comments carefully to elicit the optimum response from his own players, and I wouldn’t doubt that unlike Avila, who told everyone exactly what was going on in his head, Hinch has a somewhat different, or at least more shaded, view of Lange’s repertoire, or even future prospects with the team, then he is telling us through the media.

well, I don't really care what he says about it, I'd prefer he act to reduce Lange's leverage because he has better choices. I know they don't really care if they win games right now, but as a fan I don't have to accept that.

[Sports_Freak]

8 hours ago, TigersForever1256 said:

Parker Meadows definitely needs to be in CF now and in the future. His strides allow him to make plays on his feet that Greene has to lay himself out for.

Didn't Greene's injury happen in LF?