Sports_Freak Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 27 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: The screen pass to Gibbs sounds good on paper and to the layman like me it does seem like a good idea but I just have to tell myself that Campbell and Johnson aren't complete idiots, its not like the thought of a screen pass hasnt crossed their mind so there has to be a reason why it hasn't been called. I'm guessing it has something to do with the patchwork o line cause for screens to work you need precision and perfect timing between your o line, rb and QB and maybe Johnson and Campbell just don't have the confidence in the backups to pull that off right. I just don't remember ever seeing them use the screen. I may be mistaken but it's such a good play with an elusive runner in open space, it seems like it should be an option. I think we run some WR screens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 55 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: I just don't remember ever seeing them use the screen. I may be mistaken but it's such a good play with an elusive runner in open space, it seems like it should be an option. I think we run some WR screens? The attraction of the screen also depends on your reading of the opponent D. Are they in a mode where they are gambling or likely to get caught over pursuing, or are they playing straight-up/stay at home where you just like other plays better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sports_Freak Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: The attraction of the screen also depends on your reading of the opponent D. Are they in a mode where they are gambling or likely to get caught over pursuing, or are they playing straight-up/stay at home where you just like other plays better? Yeah, I agree. I just don't think there's a screen play in the playbook. It's really why I asked, I don't remember the Lions ever using one under Ben Johnson or MCDC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted September 26, 2023 Share Posted September 26, 2023 I can't say for certain but my memory tells me that the Lions ran some screens with Swift last year, I specifically remember a TD he had against Washington but maybe that wasn't a screen, instead him just being a checkdown. I'd have to go back and watch the highlight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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holygoat Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 That can't be right. I don't see Michael Mayer on there anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 12 hours ago, holygoat said: That can't be right. I don't see Michael Mayer on there anywhere. He has 1 rec for 2 yards. Lions got hammered for taking LaPorta ahead of a few other TEs. I think they made the right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 On 9/25/2023 at 1:13 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said: Damn, I just went and looked it up on ESPN and Love is 32nd in the league right in front of Wilson. I didn't realize Love was that inaccurate and poor of a passer. I'm sure it isn't all on him, but 53.1% is downright dreadful for a starting QB in the NFL. I think fans are haunted by the ghosts of Packers teams past, with them finding Farve out of nowhere and then transitioning right to Aaron Rodgers without missing a beat. If you dive into the stats for Jordan Love, at least thus far, Farve and Rodgers he is not. So we can all collectively pump the breaks a bit that they've gotten the second coming of Farve or Rodgers and won't miss a beat as a franchise. In fairness to Love, he's been missing his best weapons most of the season (Jones and Watson) and he does have a 7-1 TD-Int ratio. Not saying that he's a future HoF but I think he's pretty good. This game will be a big challenge especially with the Packers skill guys healthy now although the Lions are getting healthier too thank god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 I think it's way too early to judge if Love is any good in the context of Favre and Rodgers. At this point though, I don't think Love is the type of QB in his 5th career start who is going to put the team on his back and lead them to victory (like Favre and Rodgers could do), so I think that's what you need to make him try to do. Shut down the run (again), jump to a lead on offense, and force Love to try stretching the field. Pretty similar to what we did with Ridder and the Falcons. Too bad Kerby can't pickup where he left off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 Idk why but Love just strikes me as the type of QB that will either go out and look like an MVP or go out and look like he should be a backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted September 27, 2023 Author Share Posted September 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Idk why but Love just strikes me as the type of QB that will either go out and look like an MVP or go out and look like he should be a backup. Probably because he's always going to be compared to Favre and Rodgers. Either he's one of them (an MVP) or he's not and the fans will demand him (and Gutekunst) get driven out of town with torches and pitchforks. Hard to see the in-between playing out where he's David Carr or Ryan Tannehill and the Packers fanbase just gets behind having a mediocre QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, NYLion said: In fairness to Love, he's been missing his best weapons most of the season (Jones and Watson) and he does have a 7-1 TD-Int ratio. Not saying that he's a future HoF but I think he's pretty good. This game will be a big challenge especially with the Packers skill guys healthy now although the Lions are getting healthier too thank god. In the Free Press this morning, they said the Green Bay offense runs the same plays that Atlanta does. Heavy run game to protect their inexperienced QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said: In the Free Press this morning, they said the Green Bay offense runs the same plays that Atlanta does. Heavy run game to protect their inexperienced QB. That sounds about right. Having Buggs in there helped last week to, he kind of slid under the radar with his disruption of the run game. Edited September 27, 2023 by Tigeraholic1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 For those wondering, I just checked the forecast in GB tomorrow and it looks like it's going to be a perfect night for football. Low 60s/upper 50s and clear so it appears we aren't going to have to worry about crappy weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 (edited) Edited September 27, 2023 by Tigeraholic1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.TaterSalad Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 We're going to have no Oline yet again for this game. No Decker, no Jackson, no Vatai, no Nelson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 5 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: Idk why but Love just strikes me as the type of QB that will either go out and look like an MVP or go out and look like he should be a backup. Jordan Rules 2.0. Sack him into oblivion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: We're going to have no Oline yet again for this game. No Decker, no Jackson, no Vatai, no Nelson. And a hobbled Ragnow. Ugh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: We're going to have no Oline yet again for this game. No Decker, no Jackson, no Vatai, no Nelson. Looks like decker and Jackson are gonna play? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hzglory Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Sports_Freak said: And a hobbled Ragnow. Ugh... Ragnow gets a day off every week. Nothing new with him. And it does look like Decker and Jackson are likely to play. Won’t know for sure until tomorrow though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: We're going to have no Oline yet again for this game. No Decker, no Jackson, no Vatai, no Nelson. I thought Decker was trending towards playing. Did I miss something today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4hzglory Posted September 27, 2023 Share Posted September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I thought Decker was trending towards playing. Did I miss something today? No you didn’t. Reports are he, Jackson, and Montgomery are all likely to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted September 28, 2023 Author Share Posted September 28, 2023 Decker is going to give it a go and I’d be really surprised if Jackson doesn’t. Decker-Jackson-Ragnow-Glasgow-Sewell puts the offensive line at practically 100%, even if not the opening week offensive line. Stay healthy tomorrow and have ten days to get right before Carolina. Compare that to Green Bay, definitely missing two starting offensive linemen and possibly a third, and I’ll take our injury situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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