Week Four: Detroit Lions (2-1) @ Green Bay Packers (2-1)

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

Am I seeing this right, Jameson Williams is eligible next week?

97.1 just reported this as well.

[MichiganCardinal]

 

[TP_Fan]

New gambling rules has limited the suspension time frames. How about that. Jameson Williams suspension is over, effective immediately.  Let’s go. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

 

[MichiganCardinal]

It's honestly a very fitting end to a saga that was completely botched by the league from the word go.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

We should be able to spread the field and really blow the top off of a defenses now.

[KnoxP]

3 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Don't we all agree though that the HB dives and draw plays on second down for a handful of yards, 2-3 per carry, gets predictable and annoying at times? It seems we have this wide open, unpredictable, creative offense 75% of the time. Then 2nd down rolls around and sometimes, but not always, we end up with a humdrum, predictable handoff to a RB for little to no gain. If we can call and predict the next play on 2nd down from our couches, you know opposing DC's and teams are reading it on the field.

Sometimes it feels like we are running the ball out of obligation on 2nd down. Feeling like we are surrendering 2nd down at times. Yes, clearly, there are multiple instances this season and last that you can point to under Ben Johnson were we had big gains on 2nd down. Yes, clearly, Ben Johnson is lightyears ahead of any OC we've had in recent memory from Linehan to Lombardi to JBC to Bevell. I'd like to see the Lions and Ben Johnson's stats on 2nd down compared to other teams. How efficient are we on 2nd downs converting firsts. Yards per play we get on 2nd down. Run vs. pass play call on 2nd down, etc. Maybe it isn't as bad as some of us think and we're making a mountain out of a molehill.

I think it is perfectly fair to recognize and appreciate that Ben Johnson has turned Jared Goff and this offense around and made us a dynamic offensive team as a whole. Doing that, while recognizing that there are play calls and instances where we feel he could change things up or do things differently. We don't have to be jumping off a cliff or blasting Ben Johnson out of a cannon with an overaction. However, we can still look at individual play calling instances or a perceived pattern of play calling, like on 2nd down, analyze, discuss, and criticize it.

I like this quote in total and especially what I bolded.

What I also consider is what appears to be definite objective of play calling is pound your opponent into submission. I think it goes directly back to kneecaps. The thinking is, you may stop me some, but every time I do this it takes a piece out of you and will eventually wear you down to the point you can no longer stop me. Nice side benefit is at that point Lions are controlling the clock, eating up time.  

Final thought is I saw 'creativity' in a couple offensive plays KC ran in game 1.  I don't recall all the specifics, but one was around the Lions 5 and they handed the ball off like 3 times in a run play. Creative as crap, resulted in no gain or a small loss.

What we are seeing now is intentional playcalling.  All designed for some overall objective that may not be fully evident until late in the game. Maybe boring to some, but it has produced and this team looks good!

[MichiganCardinal]

 

Add this to the rules that screw the Lions before they're changed. What Jamo did will be a two-game suspension moving forward.

[RatkoVarda]

ok, so this is what it is like when the NFL thinks you are one of the good teams?

sounds good to me

[Mr.TaterSalad]

4 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

 

Add this to the rules that screw the Lions before they're changed. What Jamo did will be a two-game suspension moving forward.

Yep, so Jamo should have played last night and against Atlanta.

[Sports_Freak]

Is Jaymo healthy?

[slothfacekilla]

2 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Is Jaymo healthy?

I think DC said he was this week.

[Sports_Freak]

I had him stashed on my FF bench for his return. What a glorious 28 hours. The Tigers sweep a DH, Lions win in Green Bay and now Jaymo freed!!

[Shinzaki]

Yes...Jaymo was just reinstated by the league...love it

Edited September 29, 2023 by Shinzaki

[NYLion]

Sweet Justice, the suspension was BS anyway. Now they have 10 days to incorporate him into the offense. Can't wait to see him in action.

[RandyMarsh]

So much good news of late, makes me  feel like the episode of Married with Children where Al starts having good luck, he is so paranoid cause he just knows that something extremely bad is going to happen to offset that. 

[Sports_Freak]

Already posted? Cussing;

 

[MIguy]

58 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

Am I seeing this right, Jameson Williams is eligible next week?

Yep, Jamo has been freed.   

[Tigeraholic1]

With his hammy and allowing his body to totally heal from his surgey this might have been a blessing in disguise. It is back pages of Ben's green notebook time.

 

 

[Sports_Freak]

Tracy Walker hits very hard on the field but he's also a very soft spoken interview;

 

[TP_Fan]

It’s time to get that extension done for Goff.  

[Tenacious D]

14 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

It’s time to get that extension done for Goff.  

Why?  What’s the rush?  He doesn’t strike me as the type to let it affect his play this season.  

[TP_Fan]

4 minutes ago, Tenacious D said:

Why?  What’s the rush?  He doesn’t strike me as the type to let it affect his play this season.  

Price is gonna keep going up.  You have hooker. The extension will be 2 or 3 years. It’s clear, Goff is really good.  You keep waiting and it’s gonna get more expensive.  

[Mr.TaterSalad]

What way will Ben Johnson use Jamo to frustrate T&P and us all? Maybe short slants and out routes. Maybe throw to him short of the sticks? All kidding aside, I am stokes to have him back and to see what this offense can really become with someone who can stretch the field and be a serious deep threat.

[TP_Fan]

Plan is to be in the stadium for the panthers game, I’ll personally let Ben know how to use Gibbs and Jaymo. No worries fellas.