gehringer_2 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, chasfh said: I'm fascinated by Excel's ability to automatically update tables connected to websites or databases. There is no end to where you can take it. I used to assemble XL systems that pulled data from industrial instrumentation databases, process it into live real time diagnostic reports and then have those send their data into monthly financial reports. Stiffness was really problem though - when something broke..... The funny thing is that the stuff you code in VB you can at least comment. There's no neat way I ever came up that I liked to embed the documentation information about what a spreadsheet is doing inside the spreadsheet at the cellular level. You can add text to backing sheets or stash text in hidden rows and columns. Workable at some level, but all kludges. I do not remember those tasks fondly. Edited October 10, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 One more outright restriction I couldn't really wedge into the sheet. If a player is injured he can only be outrighted in the window between the end of the season and when 40 man rosters are set on November 17. So... if you have Freddy Pacheco and don't think he's going to last the offseason on the 40 man, you want to outright him before November 17 or non-tender him. If not, you may have to pass somebody you don't want to lose through waivers later in the offseason. There are financial reasons to non-tender guys like him that I may get into later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On Petzold and Voldemort's pod, they posited that the Tigers would be content with adding at least 3 rookies(JHM, Keith, and Jung) and roll into 2024 as another evaluation season. Voldemort pushed back on that thinking...given how low the payroll is now. The free agent class is terrible. However, I don't think you can sell a skeptical fanbase on just adding more young and untested hitters as a path to improving a still terrible offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 Just now, kdog said: On Petzold and Voldemort's pod, they posited that the Tigers would be content with adding at least 3 rookies(JHM, Keith, and Jung) and roll into 2024 as another evaluation season. Voldemort pushed back on that thinking...given how low the payroll is now. The free agent class is terrible. However, I don't think you can sell a skeptical fanbase on just adding more young and untested hitters as a path to improving a still terrible offense. Nine of the top ten free agents are pitchers (including Ohtani), so we will not be remaking our offense through the market, and the one hitter, Chapman, is probably going to sign with a team that can win in 2024. And I doubt Harris will deal from the top of the system to get an impact bat. I wouldn't be surprised if we got one of those top ten pitchers, though. This team has a better rep for its pitching coaching, so pitchers may find this a more attractive destination than a hitter might at this moment. Lucas Giolito might be gettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, kdog said: On Petzold and Voldemort's pod, they posited that the Tigers would be content with adding at least 3 rookies(JHM, Keith, and Jung) and roll into 2024 as another evaluation season. Voldemort pushed back on that thinking...given how low the payroll is now. The free agent class is terrible. However, I don't think you can sell a skeptical fanbase on just adding more young and untested hitters as a path to improving a still terrible offense. There is quality on the pitching side though. Run prevention gets you there just as well as run scoring. Tigers should be making a hard run at Gray or Snell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Yamamoto & Hader or BUST!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, kdog said: On Petzold and Voldemort's pod, they posited that the Tigers would be content with adding at least 3 rookies(JHM, Keith, and Jung) and roll into 2024 as another evaluation season. Voldemort pushed back on that thinking...given how low the payroll is now. The free agent class is terrible. However, I don't think you can sell a skeptical fanbase on just adding more young and untested hitters as a path to improving a still terrible offense. Well you're other option is adding bad, overpriced aging hitters. I think the fan base is OK with the alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: There is quality on the pitching side though. Run prevention gets you there just as well as run scoring. Tigers should be making a hard run at Gray or Snell. I would be fine with overextending on a pitcher...even with the implicit injury risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Yamamoto is 25. Dodgers Giants Mariners consumed with Ohtani. Yankees and Mets high payroll. we have cash to burn so Mr Harris and Hinch be in Japan when the clock strikes 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 the argument that since we have a low payroll, we should spend in free agency to address our offense, is stupid. Having said that, this is definitely Al Avila’s team, with the exception of Vierling, Holton and JHM. Curious how comfortable Harris will be with a team that has the potential to get much better with a core that he inherited. It’s a different situation than Dombrowski, who inherited bad contracts and a barren farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: the argument that since we have a low payroll, we should spend in free agency to address our offense, is stupid. Having said that, this is definitely Al Avila’s team, with the exception of Vierling, Holton and JHM. Curious how comfortable Harris will be with a team that has the potential to get much better with a core that he inherited. It’s a different situation than Dombrowski, who inherited bad contracts and a barren farm system. isnt that when exactly you should spend on offense??? this is insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Toddwert said: isnt that when exactly you should spend on offense??? this is insane The free agent class is terrible. But there should be opportunity to find a team that wants to cut payroll and take a big contract off their hands to fill in offensive gaps. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, kdog said: The free agent class is terrible. But there should be opportunity to find a team that wants to cut payroll and take a big contract off their hands to fill in offensive gaps. This is the way to improve the offense this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, kdog said: The free agent class is terrible. But there should be opportunity to find a team that wants to cut payroll and take a big contract off their hands to fill in offensive gaps. Or take a contract to buy an MLB ready high level hitting prospect. The guy whose contract is being moved is probably being non-productive..... That's a trickier play but there are always some possibilities out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 the Brewers are probably moving on from Corbin Burnes instead, but trading for Adames this winter and extending him is another way to go. player price would be high but he is coming off a bit of a down year. defensively that would work, with Rogers-Adames-Baez-Meadows up the middle most days, then you can tolerate some lesser gloves on the corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, kdog said: The free agent class is terrible. But there should be opportunity to find a team that wants to cut payroll and take a big contract off their hands to fill in offensive gaps. not at all what he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Toddwert said: isnt that when exactly you should spend on offense??? this is insane Not when there aren’t any decent options. The few will be overpaid and get too many years. Absent of reasonable upgrades, Im good with Keith and JHM getting PT. I am in support of going after a Tatis or Soto via trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Not when there aren’t any decent options. The few will be overpaid and get too many years. Absent of reasonable upgrades, Im good with Keith and JHM getting PT. I am in support of going after a Tatis or Soto via trade. They can kick the tires on Soto now, but he's a free agent after next season. I know in theory they could lock him up before next offseason, but he's a Boras client, so that seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Additionally... Boras knows that we'll "play ball". That was Dombrowski... But I'll just guess that it still holds true under this new Admin/ owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Additionally... Boras knows that we'll "play ball". That was Dombrowski... But I'll just guess that it still holds true under this new Admin/ owner. Why should it be assumed that what occurred under a different owner & GM/president would occur again now with the current owner & president? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I assume the Tigers will go after FAs they want to go after, regardless of who their agent is 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, RatkoVarda said: I assume the Tigers will go after FAs they want to go after, regardless of who their agent is I agree. It’s just slim pickings, so the narrative will be that Ilitch is just cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 Which teams have roster crunches and may have some guys on the back of the roster worth nabbing off waivers or a cash deal? The next Eddys Leonard? Those are going to be your transactions between now and the end of November. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Not when there aren’t any decent options. The few will be overpaid and get too many years. Absent of reasonable upgrades, Im good with Keith and JHM getting PT. I am in support of going after a Tatis or Soto via trade. not what you said and no one who wants them to spend said to throw money around like a drunken sailor Edited October 11, 2023 by Toddwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 49 minutes ago, Edman85 said: Which teams have roster crunches and may have some guys on the back of the roster worth nabbing off waivers or a cash deal? The next Eddys Leonard? Those are going to be your transactions between now and the end of November. probably the best bet if you don't want to lose your money. 😉 I's also assume they aren't going to do anything to block Keith. If there is anyone in the system that is the real deal it's likely him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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