Toddwert Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said: Isn't Wenceel a bit of a liability defensively? Al loved him some Defensive Liabilities Edited October 23, 2023 by Toddwert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 It seems like some of you guys (maybe only Echoes?) have been raving about Wenceel Perez for the last dozen years, so I am a little surprised that he is still 23 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: It seems like some of you guys (maybe only Echoes?) have been raving about Wenceel Perez for the last dozen years, so I am a little surprised that he is still 23 years old. Cruzer and I have been big on him for around 6 or so... Yeah, only 23. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Management doesn't seem to love Wenceel as much as we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 What does that mean exactly? Do you have any specific management quotes to that effect? Because he was in AAA this year. (not kicked to the street like a guy they aren't interested in...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Relax Echoes. Liston was not dissing your boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 hell hath no fury like 84 after a prospect has been scorned. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 After a fantastic year at Erie in 2022, Perez was injured in March 2023. He did some rehab in Lakeland, went to Erie...and stayed there, where it would seem that he had nothing left to prove. He didn't play AAA until the end of July. I found that to be very odd. When he got to Toledo, he played 20 games in the outfield, and 14 at 2B. I don't have any specific quotes from the organization. That's because I've never heard any of them ever mention him at all. After his year in Erie last year, I wanted him to start the year at 2B at Toledo, and get called up at the All Star break. In hindsight it is clear that that was never going to happen. Management doesn't seem to love Wenceel as much as we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 #FreeWenceel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: #FreeWenceel OK... I'm signing on to this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Jim Cowan said: ... When he got to Toledo, he played 20 games in the outfield, and 14 at 2B... Management doesn't seem to love Wenceel as much as we do. I think that was more the Org pushing their versatility mantra rather than a final summation of where Wenceel should play (as a utility guy). Even if that might be all he is anyways. I'm still interested to see what happens on the field before calling it as one way or the other (or as a AAAA player, which may also be a possibility). And I get you're trying to read tea leaves here (or the stark lack thereof...); but I'm going to stick with "just see what happens" or "see it to believe it", either of which works well enough for me. I don't believe a lack of touting a prospect necessarily = a lack of love. But, we'll see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I thought Wencel got the yips throwing from 2B and they moved him to the outfield. I could be wrong. Also I thought Keith was settled on second base which is why Jung is playing third in the Fall league. I don't see Jung in Detroit next year given Harris promotion record. So that leaves us looking for that magical third baseman for 2024 until hopefully Jung has the position down defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said: I thought Wencel got the yips throwing from 2B and they moved him to the outfield. I could be wrong. Also I thought Keith was settled on second base which is why Jung is playing third in the Fall league. I don't see Jung in Detroit next year given Harris promotion record. So that leaves us looking for that magical third baseman for 2024 until hopefully Jung has the position down defensively. Jung's brother can give him some tips at third. He had a really nice year for Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 6 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: So that leaves us looking for that magical third baseman for 2024 I'm beginning to wonder if the Tigers are in a rut at 3b letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: I'm beginning to wonder if the Tigers are in a rut at 3b letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Candy would be the perfect example of just that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 How many Tigers are arbitration eligible that won't be offered arbitration? Wouldn't want to pay anyone when we can just fill their positions from the waiver wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: I'm beginning to wonder if the Tigers are in a rut at 3b letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Perhaps jinxed for trading away the perfect ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Travis Fryman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theroundsquare Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 26 minutes ago, Dan Gilmore said: Travis Fryman? This was the name that came to mind for me, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Dan Gilmore said: Travis Fryman? We coudn't afford him. Then the next year we signed Dean Palmer for more money. Fryman really only had 2 decent years in Cleveland thoush so if he stayed here who knows... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 and that's a reminder that Randy Smith traded Cecil Fielder and Travis Fryman, possibly 2 our 2 best players* in the 1990's... for Matt Drews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Petzold and Gorosh have Dan Dickerson on this weeks podcast, Days of Roar. That’s on my to-do list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I’d be OK with a Vierling/McKinstry platoon until Jung is ready (which should happen at some point next season). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, 1776 said: Petzold and Gorosh have Dan Dickerson on this weeks podcast, Days of Roar. That’s on my to-do list. Is there a way to mute one of the three? I just can't support that show if he is cohosting. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Edman85 said: Is there a way to mute one of the three? I just can't support that show if he is cohosting. That person is the Jackhole of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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