oblong Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 One year at a condo on the beach I watched the maintenance guy every morning and thought “I want that as a retirement gig”. Came by every day and picked up things around the pool, changed garbage out, sprayed off the pool area, straightened the chairs…. Maybe he does some light work with regard to plumbing or electrical. I just love early morning prep work for some reason. One summer when I was delivering pizzas I also made the dough in the morning. Getting up wifh the sun, working alone for a few hours, then face the day knowing you accomplished something. It’s the same feeling I get when I run in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 14, 2023 Share Posted December 14, 2023 1 hour ago, buddha said: if i didnt live in chicago, i'd want to live in san diego. great little city and not that far from the big city of LA. HaHa. Maybe not in miles, but one of the truly terrible 120 mile drives in America most hours of the day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Geez this offseason is boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kdog Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 28 years old, no bad one year deals, could work out like Matthew Boyd or maybe he gets in the Fetter pitching lab and does some good things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Jack Flaherty has not been good since 2021, but he seems like someone they can work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I'm fine with it, probably isn't going to blow us away but if we were looking for somebody to fill the Lorenzen role he could do just that, projections have him at 150IP of 4.3 ERA. While they probably are hoping he can rediscover what he had earlier in his career I think the Tigers would be fine with those numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Jack Flaherty has not been good since 2021, but he seems like someone they can work with. Lots of injuries - oblique and shoulder. He maybe needs a pitching whisperer less than just staying healthy. He was pretty good when he was good, so I guess at $14M you call this one high risk/high reward. And if he does recover form he'll be an attractive deadline offering if there are guys like Gipson-Long who are challenging for promotion to the rotation. If Meada and Flaherty both start 30 games, then one of Mize, Manning, or Olsen is not in the rotation - or maybe they figure to limit Mize and Manning's innings such that together are only going to total about one starting spot. Edited December 15, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 The new speculation is whether this portends trading any young arms.... I'd be hesitant to do that, otherwise you're betting on a big bounce back from Flaherty in 2024. Overall, I think it's a fine signing and given that this org has had success working with pitchers, it seems like a worthy gamble despite his rough 2023 stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Lots of injuries - oblique and shoulder. He maybe needs a pitching whisperer less than just staying healthy. He was pretty good when he was good, so I guess at $14M you call this one high risk/high reward. And if he does recover form he'll be an attractive deadline offering if there are guys like Gipson-Long who are challenging for promotion to the rotation. They now have 8 starters: Skubal Olson Maeda Flaherty Manning Mize Gipson-Long Faedo The could make a trade, but they'll probably need them all. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: They now have 8 starters: Skubal Olson Maeda Flaherty Manning Mize Gipson-Long Faedo The could make a trade, but they'll probably need them all. We've agreed twice in one week, it's a Christmas miracle lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Tiger337 said: They now have 8 starters: Skubal Olson Maeda Flaherty Manning Mize Gipson-Long Faedo The could make a trade, but they'll probably need them all. Yup. 5 of them have significant injury history. Odds seem close to unity one will be lost for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 They also have Madden and Jobe who if all goes well could be ready by mid season to help out in the rotation if/when some of the starters get hurt or traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, mtutiger said: We've agreed twice in one week, it's a Christmas miracle lol I agree with you more often than not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 probably paying a slight premium to limit it to one year. very Lorenzen-like in the potential to get better than he has been lately. Good insurance. I'll allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 So, we’ve added Mark Canha Kenta Maeda Andrew Chafin Jack Flaherty It’s a legitimate offseason so far. I really don’t see much else happening, though would love to be pleasantly surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: ... It’s a legitimate offseason so far. I really don’t see much else happening, though would love to be pleasantly surprised. This is my thinking as well. It's a frugal offseason... I would've liked one high-end starter added but am now doubtful we'll get that. We'll see about that surprise... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 very nice. was concerned that Harris was done with significant moves. I suspect he only makes another signing if, come Feb 10, some infielder or reliever is homeless and would take a 1 year deal. they are still more than 20M under 2023 payroll, so money should not be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I was initially skeptical they would trade an arm for a bat, but after reading this tweet lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 It might be true, but doubt McCosky knows anything of substance. If the Glasgow trade doesn’t go through, do the Dodgers come after Skubal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Tenacious D said: It might be true, but doubt McCosky knows anything of substance. If the Glasgow trade doesn’t go through, do the Dodgers come after Skubal? Too late... the Rays just traded Glasnow to the Dodgers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said: Too late... the Rays just traded Glasnow to the Dodgers... pending an extension, which I guess they’re negotiating now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I doubt they trade any young pitchers. Flaherty for one year and Maeda for two are not long term solutions. Looking at Flaherty's stats, seems he was let down by his defense a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Was Turnbull at $7-8M a bad option, compared to what Flaherty is getting? He must have really burned a bridge with Harris and Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Somebody’s a bit cranky tonight. What a douche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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