chasfh Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 20 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Makes sense. They’ve gotten screwed by the new draft lottery—especially this year—their system is among the worst in Baseball, and coming off a 106-loss season, they needed to do something to maintain relevance in that market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 17 hours ago, mtutiger said: Chafin's deal is interesting in how team friendly it is compared to his initial deal.... lower cost and more control after year 1 with a team option. As much as folks complained about letting him go last year, especially early when the bullpen was struggling, the situation is basically going to play out about as well as it possibly could have for the Tigers. Chafin as much as admitted he made a big mistake opting out of his second year last season. That’s OK, though, I think he and his family will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: McCosky is probably the most pompous self important Tigers writer and he really doesn't know that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share Posted December 16, 2023 I’m really going to be interested in seeing how Manning responds this year after taking liners off his foot on two separate occasions last year. I wonder whether he’s having nightmares about comeback liners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 21 hours ago, Edman85 said: They knew the 4th option was coming. It just wasn't public until last week. I had it in my calculations and if they have anybody working on that stuff in the FO, they would have it too. Yes, I think I remember that you called it out as a possibility, but I don't know when that was. My guess is they probably had that in their sights as well. I know the NFL has its training camp show on HBO or Amazon or whatever platform, and I obviously can't recall the name of the show. I wonder if MLB would consider something like that for spring training. I'd be interested in seeing some of the behind the scenes stuff. I realize that it'd probably be only a fraction of what goes on, but I think that could be fascinating to see if done well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Cruzer1 said: I don't think the Tigers have a backup SS on their 40 man roster. 1 hour ago, Edman85 said: Kreidler, McKinstry... Maton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Hmmmm..... Giants Considering Trading From Group Of Young Pitchers Quote The Giants are entertaining the idea of trading from their group of young and controllable pitching prospects, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic. He says that signing a veteran will make it more likely but it’s a path they are already considering. As for who is in this group that Rosenthal is referring to, he lists lefties Kyle Harrison and Carson Whisenhunt as well as righties Tristan Beck, Keaton Winn, Mason Black and Hayden Birdsong. ... None of Black, Whisenhunt nor Birdsong are on the 40-man roster, but Black has reached Triple-A and the latter two have made it to the Double-A level. Baseball America currently lists Whisenhunt as the club’s #5 prospect, Black at #8 and Birdsong at #12. There is a lot of potential in that group but very few sure things. Subtracting someone from the flock would be a risk, but Rosenthal frames it as something that might need to be considered in order to add young, athletic position players. This just struck me as interesting given Harris' previous employer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, chasfh said: I’m really going to be interested in seeing how Manning responds this year after taking liners off his foot on two separate occasions last year. I wonder whether he’s having nightmares about comeback liners. Steel toe cleats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 40 minutes ago, casimir said: Steel toe cleats. Na, the steel could wedge into the bone. Yuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzer1 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Edman85 said: Kreidler, McKinstry... I forgot about Zach, but I don't think Kreidler is viable, unless he's better at the plate. Eddys has played all over the infield in the Dodgers system, seems like a perfect fit. And his righthandedness would come in handy off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) Now that the Tigers don't have a spot wasted on a replacement level DH, they have more flexibility on their roster. They should be able to carry both offense-first and defense-first utility players on the bench. Edited December 16, 2023 by Tiger337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Tiger337 said: McCosky is probably the most pompous self important Tigers writer and he really doesn't know that much. Lynn Henning set a pretty high bar.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Shinzaki said: Lynn Henning set a pretty high bar.... Henning's writing style is off putting to some, but I don't think he is pompous. He has respectful conversations with fans all the time. He would never say anyting lke "I wish you guys would read my stuff". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 True..I do think McCoskey has a condescending streak that Henning did not have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, casimir said: Hmmmm..... Giants Considering Trading From Group Of Young Pitchers This just struck me as interesting given Harris' previous employer. The Giants are in a tight spot right now. Their position players are all so-so or young and yet unproven. Zaidi should have been out the door with Kapler. The team has very little, if any, leverage in trade talks with other teams. Boras played Zaidi like banjo on Jung Hoo Lee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Henning's writing style is off putting to some, but I don't think he is pompous. He has respectful conversations with fans all the time. He would never say anyting lke "I wish you guys would read my stuff". If anything, Henning is kind of a goof ball - always speculating out to the extremes. But for me it just mostly his writing style is so over the top with the adjectives that it's amusing - like he's trying to impress a 12th grade creative writing teacher. But that part has nothing to do with what he's trying to say. He seems like an OK guy otherwise. Edited December 16, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Cruzer1 said: Na, the steel could wedge into the bone. Yuck. That’s a possible hazard around heavy equipment that could bend the steel toe downward. I’m not sure a baseball has enough force to do that. And I would think if anything, it’d be a lighter material fashioned in way around the foot to not dig in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, 1776 said: The Giants are in a tight spot right now. Their position players are all so-so or young and yet unproven. Zaidi should have been out the door with Kapler. The team has very little, if any, leverage in trade talks with other teams. Boras played Zaidi like banjo on Jung Hoo Lee. Harris cannot help but notice that his old boss is hanging on by a thread. Edited December 16, 2023 by RatkoVarda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, 1776 said: The Giants are in a tight spot right now. Their position players are all so-so or young and yet unproven. Zaidi should have been out the door with Kapler. The team has very little, if any, leverage in trade talks with other teams. Boras played Zaidi like banjo on Jung Hoo Lee. I’m not going to pretend to know if Harris and company like the balance or depth of prospects in house enough to try to make a move with the Giants. It just struck as interesting an interesting proposition to trade for pitching prospects that aren’t yet on the 40 and Harris’ relationship with that team. Maybe there’s something to it, maybe there isn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, casimir said: Steel toe cleats. Or miss more bats. As I recall, the exit velocity on the 2nd injury was pretty high. He seems to give up a lot of hard hit balls, but someone more analytical and less lazy could prove me wrong on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 Just now, Tenacious D said: Or miss more bats. As I recall, the exit velocity on the 2nd injury was pretty high. He seems to give up a lot of hard hit balls, but someone more analytical and less lazy could prove me wrong on this. Well, yeah, I guess that’d be the optimal thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Cruzer1 said: I forgot about Zach, but I don't think Kreidler is viable, unless he's better at the plate. Eddys has played all over the infield in the Dodgers system, seems like a perfect fit. And his righthandedness would come in handy off the bench. Leonard plays all over because he isn't a good defensive shortstop. Kreidler is a good defensive shortstop and is much more viable if you want somebody who can play the position. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 17 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: Harris cannot help but notice that his old boss is hanging on by a thread. Can you believe SF just extended Zaidi through 2026 at the end of this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 38 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: If anything, Henning is kind of a goof ball - always speculating out to the extremes. But for me it just mostly his writing style is so over the top with the adjectives that it's amusing - like he's trying to impress a 12th grade creative writing teacher. But that part has nothing to do with what he's trying to say. He seems like an OK guy otherwise. Lynn jumped the shark with the AJ opt-out, and it's hard to take him seriously after he just made up that story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted December 16, 2023 Share Posted December 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, 1776 said: Can you believe SF just extended Zaidi through 2026 at the end of this season? needed to either axe him or extend him, otherwise uncertainty will be used by other teams competing for FAs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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