2023-24 Detroit Tigers Offseason Thread

[casimir]

Is Texas in trouble if they lose tonight?  No more road games for them after this.

[Tigermojo]

Get on that phone Harris. Time's a wastin' Greenberg.

[Motor City Sonics]

Yeah, it's been HOURS since the Rangers won the series................No Tiger deals yet.    Come on Harris, DO YOUR JOB !

[RatkoVarda]

the Braves sign Joe Jimenez 3/26M

[Tiger337]

I don't think we'd be happy if the Tigers signed Jimenez for three years.  

[Toddwert]

Come on do something!!!! 😉

[Edman85]

They will HAVE to do something by Monday, since they are going to be over 40 on the 40-man once all the 60-Day IL'ers come off.

[Toddwert]

23 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

They will HAVE to do something by Monday, since they are going to be over 40 on the 40-man once all the 60-Day IL'ers come off.

interesting who's getting the big Cut?

[Dan Gilmore]

Max Muncy had been mentioned as a possible FA at 3B to bridge things while the youngsters get up to speed. He is reported to be signing a two year extension with the Dodgers. 

[MIguy]

I just want to hear that Baez has opted out and then everything else is gravy.   Yes, I am aware there is pretty much zero chance of that happening.  

[Edman85]

10 hours ago, Toddwert said:

interesting who's getting the big Cut?

Well...

Assuming Eduardo opts out, Baez stays, the free agents move the 40-man down to 37.  Activating Alexander, Greene, Meadows, Mize, Pacheco gets you to 42. You have to cut 2. If you want to protect Keider Montero, you need to drop 3.

If you ask me, I'd say Andrew Vasquez, Trey Wingenter, Tyler Nevin, and Brenan Hanifee... But I could be wrong.

You can't outright Kelly or Meadows, so you have to wait to non-tender them. Pacheco also makes sense as a non-tender, and not an outright, due to how minor league contracts work after an outright.

Anybody injured or added to the 40 man after August 15 needs to be outrighted by roster protection deadline or non-tendered if you are going to remove them before spring training. Also, anybody who is eligible for minor league free agency needs to be outrighted before that deadline too, or else you are paying them major league money in the minor leagues next year.

Edited November 3, 2023 by Edman85

[Jim Cowan]

It's hard to think of a scenario where a 40 man spot is used on Nevin.

[Tenacious D]

I hope they protect Wenceel, too.

[gehringer_2]

I doubt either Wingenter or Nevin are likely to make us regret letting them go.

[Tigermojo]

Nevin's dad broke out at age 28 for three good years. Tyler will be 27 next year.

[gehringer_2]

3 hours ago, Tigermojo said:

Nevin's dad broke out at age 28 for three good years. Tyler will be 27 next year.

We've had that same hope dashed recently in Daz Cameron.

[casimir]

8 hours ago, Jim Cowan said:

It's hard to think of a scenario where a 40 man spot is used on Nevin.

If that happens, I’m going to become an Expos fan.

[Toddwert]

3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

We've had that same hope dashed recently in Daz Cameron.

I think part of this fan base falls in love with sub-par players and then they get cut they act like we just cut Mike Trout .... how many old friends stories are we going to get from this off season...do other fan bases do this? it so annoying

[Edman85]

1. Wenceel Perez is already on the 40-man.

2. For all the people clamoring for players in Toledo based on their AAA Numbers this year, Nevin was .326/.400/543 there this year.

[RatkoVarda]

did anyone do a deep dive into why AAA numbers were so bonkers in 2023? or maybe it does not need a deep dive, and it is as simple as "the pitching sucked"

[Edman85]

12 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

did anyone do a deep dive into why AAA numbers were so bonkers in 2023? or maybe it does not need a deep dive, and it is as simple as "the pitching sucked"

Rules experimentation (robozone, challenge system), pre-tacked baseballs, MLB pitching injuries depleting AAA depth...

[mtutiger]

1 hour ago, Toddwert said:

I think part of this fan base falls in love with sub-par players and then they get cut they act like we just cut Mike Trout .... how many old friends stories are we going to get from this off season...do other fan bases do this? it so annoying

Gotta lay some of the responsibility on the beat writers. Between Chris McCoskey and Evan Woodbery, they seem way more interested in covering people that are no longer on the Tigers than the actual team.

[Shades of Deivi Cruz]

Seems like priority one if we want to be WS winners next year is to somehow sign Will Smith.

[casimir]

7 minutes ago, Shades of Deivi Cruz said:

Seems like priority one if we want to be WS winners next year is to somehow sign Will Smith.

[casimir]

10 minutes ago, Edman85 said:

Rules experimentation (robozone, challenge system), pre-tacked baseballs, MLB pitching injuries depleting AAA depth...

It seems like an OPS+ or RC+ would be a more appropriate numerical evaluator for 2023?