2023-24 Detroit Tigers Offseason Thread

[chasfh]

44 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said:

hope they make a serious offer

 

What's his public minimum demand? 😁

[chasfh]

I like Maeda as a target. He's old, but he still has good strikeout and walk rates, gets a lot of swing and miss especially outside the zone, and he has a lot of playoff experience he can share with the staff. I would approve of a serious offer.

[1984Echoes]

5 minutes ago, chasfh said:

What's his public minimum demand? 😁

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

.... I would approve of a serious offer.

 

WAIT!!!

How do you define a serious offer for Maeda?

[1984Echoes]

You realize chas, that this entire offseason that EVERY potential free agent offer will be questioned as to whether it was serious or not...

(IE: $240 mill/ 10 years offer to Yamamoto.... WAIT!!! Is that a serious offer?)

[1984Echoes]

In other words...

Call yourself a trendsetter...

At least for this offseason...

[Tigermojo]

"Tigers Showing “Serious” Interest In Kenta Maeda"

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2023/11/tigers-rumors-serious-interest-kenta-maeda-free-agent.html

Finally serious after wasting everyone's time all these years.

Harris told them make sure you put serious in the headline.

Edited November 21, 2023 by Tigermojo

[1984Echoes]

If Maeda opens the door to getting Yamamoto: I approve of the Tigers serious interest in him.

Yamamoto at the front of the rotation and Maeda at the back-end, or wherever he is needed in the rotation, to stabilize it... absolutely works for me.

[Shinzaki]

Serious=no emojis in texts to Maeda or his agent

[1984Echoes]

How about exclamation points?

We are going to offer you $______________    !!!

Personally, IMO, enough exclamation points (but not too many... at least 3 but not more than 5...) should close the deal because it shows HOW serious a team really is...!!!

[Motor City Sonics]

I was hoping they'd at least be in on some  of the top starters, not that I expect the Tigers to overpay what they'd have to to land anyone really good, but hearing the maybe's on second or third-tier pitchers after what, $57 million comes off the payroll..............is disappointing.       I don't think they need to go after any position players - they need to see what they've got with young guys, but they absolutely need two guys that can start.   I'm not convinced Mize is going to have a productive year at all and line drives seem to find Matt Manning's feet.       I was just hoping for more.  84 wins can take this division next year while you still build for the real future.   Feel like we're now the Pirates and we'd be lucky to be good once every 8 years.   

[KL2]

58 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I was hoping they'd at least be in on some  of the top starters, not that I expect the Tigers to overpay what they'd have to to land anyone really good, but hearing the maybe's on second or third-tier pitchers after what, $57 million comes off the payroll..............is disappointing.       I don't think they need to go after any position players - they need to see what they've got with young guys, but they absolutely need two guys that can start.   I'm not convinced Mize is going to have a productive year at all and line drives seem to find Matt Manning's feet.       I was just hoping for more.  84 wins can take this division next year while you still build for the real future.   Feel like we're now the Pirates and we'd be lucky to be good once every 8 years.   

The problem is nobody is really that good in this years free agent market. It is a bunch of second and third tier guys. So you can have a bunch of money off the books, but can't magically make better players available. 

[Sports_Freak]

2 hours ago, Tiger337 said:

He caught lightning in a bottle but for that one year you knew every time he came into close a game, the game was over. They have never had another reliever like that.  They've had some guys who had a lot of saves, but you were sitting on the edge of your seat screaming at them in every appearance.  

I seem to remember him having more than 1 inning saves. But I could be wrong.

[Tiger337]

10 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I seem to remember him having more than 1 inning saves. But I could be wrong.

21 of them were 4 outs or more.  18 were 6 outs or more.  

[Sports_Freak]

5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

21 of them were 4 outs or more.  18 were 6 outs or more.  

That's very impressive. Especially that his ERA was under 2.00. I think I read about his multiple inning saves but never looked the stats up.

[casimir]

The other tidbit that I like with that 1984 pitching staff is that they used only 14 pitchers as season long.  Here we are 40 years later and no team can get through a month with only 14 different pitchers.

[Jim Cowan]

26 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

I seem to remember him having more than 1 inning saves. But I could be wrong.

140 innings in 80 appearances.  22 more innings and he would have won the ERA title.

[casimir]

Just kind of eyeballing the 84 team, it looks like Hernandez and Lopez accounted for around 50% of the bullpen innings. 

[Motor City Sonics]

Willie gave us one of the more humorous moments in baseball as a Cub.   It's like an alien being told about baseball and giving it a try without ever seeing how it's done first

 

 

Edited November 22, 2023 by Motor City Sonics

[Sports_Freak]

1 minute ago, Jim Cowan said:

140 innings in 80 appearances.  22 more innings and he would have won the ERA title.

And in '84, he was lockdown. His WHIP was under 1.00.

Denny's 1968 season, Willie's 1984 season, JV's 2011 season and Miggys 2012 season were prolly the best Tiger seasons I remember. Miggys season wins out....

[Motor City Sonics]

1 minute ago, Sports_Freak said:

And in '84, he was lockdown. His WHIP was under 1.00.

Denny's 1968 season, Willie's 1984 season, JV's 2011 season and Miggys 2012 season were prolly the best Tiger seasons I remember. Miggys season wins out....

Tram's 1987, to me, is right there with them.   .343 BA,  .402 OBP  .953 OPS  OPS of 155,  21 stolen bases, 105 RBI and being clutch when it counted.  

[SoCalTiger]

Willie threw 150 innings in 1984. Let that sink in. 

[Tiger337]

50 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

And in '84, he was lockdown. His WHIP was under 1.00.

Denny's 1968 season, Willie's 1984 season, JV's 2011 season and Miggys 2012 season were prolly the best Tiger seasons I remember. Miggys season wins out....

2012 was more memorable, but Cabrera's 2013 season was even better than his 2012 season.  

[Shinzaki]

In 1973 John Hiller was close to 84 Hernandez...in 71 and 72 Lolich was Verlander level

[RandyMarsh]

Magglio and Granderson's 07s are sleeper all time great Tiger seasons. 

[Jim Cowan]

1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Tram's 1987, to me, is right there with them.   .343 BA,  .402 OBP  .953 OPS  OPS of 155,  21 stolen bases, 105 RBI and being clutch when it counted.  

Nice year, but '87 stats have an Asterix because of the ball.