Toddwert Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 37 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Hope you’re all correct about Manning, but I personally don’t see it. He doesn’t really have an out pitch, though could still develop I suppose. I think he’s a 4th or 5th starter, at best. His low salary helps his trade value. I see him being added to a deal vs being the central piece, unless it’s for a Triple A catcher or someone like that. I'll be honest I dont think hes going anyhere because the Tigers probaby havent given up on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 I’d package him with Jung and Carpenter to get Tatis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: I’d package him with Jung and Carpenter to get Tatis. yeah If only the Padres would go along with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Toddwert said: yeah If only the Padres would go along with that It’s not far-fetched. Tatis has a PED suspension and rumors of attitude issues. Also has a massive contract. And the Padres need to clear payroll. Also had a bit of a pedestrian offensive season last year (by his standards). Whoever trades for him would be assuming some risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Toddwert said: yeah If only the Padres would go along with that Im sure they would. Maybe add a pitcher like fado or madden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Tenacious D said: It’s not far-fetched. Tatis has a PED suspension and rumors of attitude issues. Also has a massive contract. And the Padres need to clear payroll. Also had a bit of a pedestrian offensive season last year (by his standards). Whoever trades for him would be assuming some risk. I’d have a cup of coffee with Bob Melvin before I’d give Tatis the time of day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Tenacious D said: Hope you’re all correct about Manning, but I personally don’t see it. He doesn’t really have an out pitch, though could still develop I suppose. I think he’s a 4th or 5th starter, at best. His low salary helps his trade value. I see him being added to a deal vs being the central piece, unless it’s for a Triple A catcher or someone like that. Manning is basically a 4 seam fastball pitcher. He doesn't have the velo a Verlander had but it's that kind of pitcher profile. So just for perspective I'd note that JV threw over 500 MLB innings before he reached a one K/IP K rate. Manning is at ~225. He has enough stuff if stays healthy and learns how to use it - never any guarantees with pitchers but I would understand if the Tiger are willing to give him more time to develop before moving him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Jimmy Smokes made the Hall of Fame! 🥳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tenacious D Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Do managers wear a team hat in the HOF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Do managers wear a team hat in the HOF? do they put his favorite cig brand on his HOF plaque? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Do managers wear a team hat in the HOF? They do sparky went in as a red I would have to think he goes in as a tiger if anyone. More years in Pittsburgh. But two ws in Detroit and 8 years, started his professional career as a tiger and still works for detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Tenacious D said: Do managers wear a team hat in the HOF? Sparky is wearing a Reds hat on his plaque. Under his picture they list his tenure with each team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, KL2 said: They do sparky went in as a red I would have to think he goes in as a tiger if anyone. More years in Pittsburgh. But two ws in Detroit and 8 years, started his professional career as a tiger and still works for detroit. But he won the WS with the Marlins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, MIguy said: But he won the WS with the Marlins. And managed a whole 2 years...so thanks for that addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 I just finished reading a great piece on Leyland in the Athletic by Stavenhagen. Excellent piece. Glad he got in. He was very deserving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, KL2 said: And managed a whole 2 years...so thanks for that addition. LOL so sure, a WS ring mean nothing. Got it....so thanks for that little nugget of wisdom. Edited December 4, 2023 by MIguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 minute ago, MIguy said: LOL so sure, a WS ring mean nothing. Got it....so thanks for that little nugget of stupidity. Yep that's why Miguel will go in as a Marlin. And why Molitor went in as a Jay and Pudge went in as a Marlin. Only thing that matters is who you won a WS with, no matter how short the time and what else happened in your career. You're just being silly and argumentive for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, KL2 said: Yep that's why Miguel will go in as a Marlin. And why Molitor went in as a Jay and Pudge went in as a Marlin. Only thing that matters is who you won a WS with, no matter how short the time and what else happened in your career. You're just being silly and argumentive for no reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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casimir Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Leyland’s case is interesting. He finished at 1769-1728, only a .504 winning percentage. He won his only ring with the Marlins. He had his longest stint with the Pirates. His only tenure with a team that was a winning record was with the Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 Leyland spent years in the Tigers organization in several positions. His spent years as a coach in the Tigers organization as a minor league coach. Don’t know what hat he’ll wear going in but he’s a Detroit Tiger as far as I’m concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 1 hour ago, KL2 said: And managed a whole 2 years...so thanks for that addition. But you said that winning the World Series is all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 This makes me happier than I expected it would. I suspect he will have a Tigers hat. He’s talked many times about coming full circle from the minors and majors with the org. In his MLB network he had a tigers hat on the shelf behind him. Yea he works for the org I know. I just suspect that’s what it will be. He had plenty of success with the Tigers to justify it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 8 minutes ago, oblong said: This makes me happier than I expected it would. I suspect he will have a Tigers hat. He’s talked many times about coming full circle from the minors and majors with the org. In his MLB network he had a tigers hat on the shelf behind him. Yea he works for the org I know. I just suspect that’s what it will be. He had plenty of success with the Tigers to justify it. And we never fired him nor made him manage “scabs.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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