2023-24 Detroit Tigers Offseason Thread

[Toddwert]

really a quiet Winter meeting 

[TJ Rollercoaster]

5 minutes ago, Toddwert said:

really a quiet Winter meeting 

Orioles have signed Craig Kimbrel,  looks like the Yankmes are going to acquire Juan Soto

[Edman85]

2 hours ago, MIguy said:

Calvin Coker seems to have stats good enough to at least have some MLB experience, why has he never been called up?  

Were we looking at the same BR page? On what basis should he have gotten MLB time?

[Tiger337]

Oh no, MiGuy has already hard a rough week on this site.  And now he gets Edmanned.  

[theroundsquare]

1 hour ago, Toddwert said:

really a quiet Winter meeting 

it's a bummer.  the winter meetings used to be one of my favorite events of the year, but nothing happens at them anymore

[RandyMarsh]

Looking at his stats I don't see what the Tigers see in Coker, maybe something stands out in his statcast numbers? The minor league Rule 5 draft isn't the same as the majors where you have to keep the guy on your big league roster(or 40 man?) all season? 

[Edman85]

1 hour ago, Tiger337 said:

Oh no, MiGuy has already hard a rough week on this site.  And now he gets Edmanned.  

FWIW, I really wasn't trying to be snarky. Genuinely curious... To me, a reliever that belongs in the bigs is one that is blowing the doors off of AAA: sub 2 ERA, K/9 above 12 or so.

[MIguy]

1 hour ago, Edman85 said:

Were we looking at the same BR page? On what basis should he have gotten MLB time?

I would say his stats over the last couple of years are better than many relief pitchers.  

[Tiger337]

20 minutes ago, MIguy said:

I would say his stats over the last couple of years are better than many relief pitchers.  

He has a pretty low k rate for a minor league reliever.  Those guys don't usually have success in the majors.  

[Edman85]

He was also 27 in AA this year, 26 in A and AA last year. The numbers don't jump off the page at me in any way given the context.

Granted, it does look like he had TJ in 2021, so it could be a case of getting somebody on the way up. I don't know much about his arsenal or his makeup. Minor league rule 5 picks tend to be roster filler. These guys will likely just slot into Erie's bullpen and munch some garbage innings this year. No shame in that. Somebody has to.

Edited December 7, 2023 by Edman85

[Tiger337]

yeah, maybe they see something that doesn't show up in the stats, but the stats themselves don't suggest that he belongs in the majors.  How many of these minor league rule 5 guys ever spend any significant time in the majors?  I don't follow it, but I imagine it's a fairly low percentage.  

[Longgone]

40 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

yeah, maybe they see something that doesn't show up in the stats, but the stats themselves don't suggest that he belongs in the majors.  How many of these minor league rule 5 guys ever spend any significant time in the majors?  I don't follow it, but I imagine it's a fairly low percentage.  

Starr can hit the upper 90' but is hittable, Coker low 90's but has more of a mix, both are just org fodder. I'd rather see them grab young guys who may have some development left, but I guess you need some of these guys also.

[1984Echoes]

2 hours ago, Edman85 said:

FWIW, I really wasn't trying to be snarky. Genuinely curious... To me, a reliever that belongs in the bigs is one that is blowing the doors off of AAA: sub 2 ERA, K/9 above 12 or so.

And/or a WHIP of less than 1.0.

A high K-Rate and a low-WHIP does it for me...

Although Harris has me now looking at K-BB ratio as well...

[1984Echoes]

Tyler Mattison is the guy to keep an eye on IMO... Maybe not in 2024, but moreso in 2025...

[Tenacious D]

8 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

Tyler Mattison is the guy to keep an eye on IMO... Maybe not in 2024, but moreso in 2025...

Not sure if Troy Melton has a serious injury, but he looked pretty good last season.

[Tenacious D]

 

[Warning Track Power]

Did Harris go on another Honeymoon?

[1776]

9 minutes ago, Warning Track Power said:

Did Harris go on another Honeymoon?

Yes, with AJ Hinch. I heard it was lights out.

[Tigermojo]

ERod to DBacks for four years.

[Tenacious D]

I feel nothing 

[buddha]

good luck and good riddance.

[Tiger337]

1 hour ago, Tenacious D said:

 

He and Chafin can both play close to home!

[oblong]

Beck with the snark.  I like it. 
 

 

[chasfh]

Jordan Montgomery’s market just went to ****. Can’t peg himself to Nola anymore.

[buddha]

1 hour ago, oblong said:

Beck with the snark.  I like it. 
 

 

yeah, making the move in the offseason makes ALL the difference.  gtfo beck.