The Gaza War

[1984Echoes]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Just about the entire population of cities like Jackson, Northville Township, Southgate, and Walled Lake would be wiped out if you compared the death toll in Palestine to communities in Michigan. Eastpointe has 34,000 people, Lincoln Park has 39,000 people, Bloomfield Township as 44,000 people. Maybe we'll get there next.

PS:

You know that Hamas controls the flow of information coming out of Gaza, right? From the Palestinian perspective.

Those stats that you posted...

Are PROPAGANDA, directly from HAMAS.

You know this, right?

[Mr.TaterSalad]

23 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

The US did not start a war with Palestine, it has not engaged in war with Palestine, it does not control Israel, and yet the Hamasholes will blame Biden. 

The US gives approx. $3.3 billion a year in aid to Israel through the Foreign Military Financing program. I believe we can indeed condition that military aid allotted to the Israeli IDF and their iron dome missile defense system based on how they are behaving in Gaza. So to say we have no control over the situation is untrue in my eyes when we can condition the aid we give them based on their actions and actions we want them to take. 

[Motown Bombers]

10 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

The US gives approx. $3.3 billion a year in aid to Israel through the Foreign Military Financing program. I believe we can indeed condition that military aid allotted to the Israeli IDF and their iron dome missile defense system based on how they are behaving in Gaza. So to say we have no control over the situation is untrue in my eyes when we can condition the aid we give them based on their actions and actions we want them to take. 

Israel has nuclear weapons. They are more than capable of making Gaza disappear without the little aid the US provides to them. Israel is one of the top 10 largest militaries in the world in terms of spending. They spend a ton of their GDP on defense. Biden has said there will be conditions on aid. Hamasholes want a complete surrender from Israel.

[Motown Bombers]

Just hand over Gaza to Israel like leftists want to do with Ukraine in the name of peace. Problem solved. 

[pfife]

On 2/11/2024 at 4:01 PM, Hongbit said:

It’s a good thing the communities of Jackson, Northville Township, Southgate, and Walled Lake didn’t choose to support, aid, and harbor one of world’s deadliest terrorist organizations.

Couldn't agree more, especially regarding the children.  It's those lil ****bird kids that deserve it the most.   Those lil terrorists deserve every bomb they get given they inaccurately contemplated the geopolitical implications of other people's actions before those other people committed those actions 

[Hongbit]

9 minutes ago, pfife said:

Couldn't agree more, especially regarding the children.  It's those lil ****bird kids that deserve it the most.   Those lil terrorists deserve every bomb they get given they inaccurately contemplated the geopolitical implications of other people's actions before those other people committed those actions 

[pfife]

[Motown Bombers]

Hamas should really surrender and release the hostages instead of using children and civilians as shields. Egypt, or any country for that matter, could open their border and take in refugees. 

[Motown Bombers]

When Russia invaded Ukraine, Poland took in over 2 million refugees. That's roughly the size of Gaza. The entire Middle East isn't taking in any refugees. 

[chasfh]

23 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

When Russia invaded Ukraine, Poland took in over 2 million refugees. That's roughly the size of Gaza. The entire Middle East isn't taking in any refugees. 

Almost as though it’s a different region with geopolitical considerations unique to it.

[chasfh]

On 2/11/2024 at 4:04 PM, 1984Echoes said:

That's a flat out lie. Those numbers were supplied by Hamas, weren't they.

I believe that’s correct, yes.

On 2/11/2024 at 4:04 PM, 1984Echoes said:

14,000 of those killed were terrorists. And they use kids to transport weapons and ammunition through there terrorist tunnels. How many of those children were IN tunnels when killed?

Misleading as ****.

Source on this?

[Motown Bombers]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Almost as though it’s a different region with geopolitical considerations unique to it.

Yeah every country in the region wants to wipe out Israel and every Jew. They believe Israel should belong to Palestine so taking in refugees would just acknowledge Jews right to existence. 

[1984Echoes]

3 hours ago, chasfh said:

I believe that’s correct, yes.

Source on this?

IDF.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

16 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

IDF.

So now Jewish Trump's government is a trustworthy source?

Edited February 14, 2024 by Mr.TaterSalad

[Mr.TaterSalad]

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Yeah every country in the region wants to wipe out Israel and every Jew. They believe Israel should belong to Palestine so taking in refugees would just acknowledge Jews right to existence. 

Jewish Trump would gladly wipe every Palestinian off the map. He even said so himself. Jewish Trump has also done nothing to stop or limit settlement expansion nor violence by settlers.

Edited February 14, 2024 by Mr.TaterSalad

[Motown Bombers]

1 minute ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Jewish Trump would gladly wipe every Palestinian off the map. He even said so himself. Jewish Trump has also done nothing to stop or limit settlement expansion nor violence by settlers.

You act like people support Bibi. By the way, I thought leftists were against US imperialism? Let Israel chose another leader. 

[chasfh]

20 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said:

IDF.

Israel Defense Forces. Thank you.

Also a party with interest.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Just now, Motown Bombers said:

You act like people support Bibi. By the way, I thought leftists were against US imperialism? Let Israel chose another leader. 

If you support sending military aid, without condition to Israel, then yes, you are supporting Jewish Trump and what his government is doing in Gaza. How can Israel choose another leader when Jewish Trump is trying to change his country's judicial and court systems to benefit himself and keep himself in power?

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said:

If you support sending military aid, without condition to Israel, then yes, you are supporting Jewish Trump and what his government is doing in Gaza. How can Israel choose another leader when Jewish Trump is trying to change his country's judicial and court systems to benefit himself and keep himself in power?

Literally no one is supporting aid without condition and Biden has been clear about that. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Just now, chasfh said:

Israel Defense Forces. Thank you.

Also a party with interest.

And commanded by a known, habitual liar, with an agenda to use this war to both increase his own popularity and keep himself in power.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

Literally no one is supporting aid without condition and Biden has been clear about that. 

Until the most recent funding allocation to Israel, which did have some human rights conditions attached to the aid, Biden had previously opposed conditioning any military aid that was being sent over to Jewish Trump's government.

CNN: Biden administration makes clear it has no plans to place conditions on military aid to Israel despite pressure from lawmakers

 

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Until the most recent funding allocation to Israel, which did have some human rights conditions attached to the aid, Biden had previously opposed conditioning any military aid that was being sent over to Jewish Trump's government.

CNN: Biden administration makes clear it has no plans to place conditions on military aid to Israel despite pressure from lawmakers

 

Yeah well now he does. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

Yeah well now he does. 

And that's a good thing and likely a result of a lot of the political pressure he's been receiving from the Arab and Muslim communities, the left base of his party, as well as international pressure from other countries.

[chasfh]

14 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

And commanded by a known, habitual liar, with an agenda to use this war to both increase his own popularity and keep himself in power.

Known, habitual liars as politicians is a feature, not a bug. My point is that it's a bad look to disparage information coming from one side of a conflict, and make a bid to correct it with information from the other side, as though they do not both have equal incentive to doctor the numbers, which they do.

[1984Echoes]

27 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

So now Jewish Trump's government is a trustworthy source?

More trustworthy than Hamas terrorists and liars.

And it's not even close.