chasfh Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 10 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Sorry I misquoted what you actually said... You also truncated the post to in an attempt to change the point from being mine to being yours, although, honestly, I'm not sure you even followed up on your own point here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I do find it interesting how the basic Constitutional right to free speech gets questioned by people when the slight inconvenience of the free speech being actually exercised forces them to have to find a somewhat less-direct alternate route to Walmart. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 minutes ago, chasfh said: I do find it interesting how the basic Constitutional right to free speech gets questioned by people when the slight inconvenience of the free speech being actually exercised forces them to have to find a somewhat less-direct alternate route to Walmart. Who questioned their right to free speech? I'm sure if they were wearing red hats you wouldn't be so indifferent. This is midtown Manhattan. They aren't blocking people going to Walmart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Just now, Motown Bombers said: Who questioned their right to free speech? I'm sure if they were wearing red hats you wouldn't be so indifferent. This is midtown Manhattan. They aren't blocking people going to Walmart. Read the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 minute ago, chasfh said: Read the thread. Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 52 minutes ago, chasfh said: I do find it interesting how the basic Constitutional right to free speech gets questioned by people when the slight inconvenience of the free speech being actually exercised forces them to have to find a somewhat less-direct alternate route to Walmart. Or your loved one being rushed to the hospital for life saving treatment. But what are laws for if we can't break them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 48 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Who questioned their right to free speech? I'm sure if they were wearing red hats you wouldn't be so indifferent. This is midtown Manhattan. They aren't blocking people going to Walmart. They could have slapped another charge of child endagerment if they wanted. It seems rules and rights only apply when certain folks say they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 56 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Who questioned their right to free speech? I'm sure if they were wearing red hats you wouldn't be so indifferent. This is midtown Manhattan. They aren't blocking people going to Walmart. If it were a planned parenthood clinic being blocked I think the reaction would be different. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Some people are just so butt hurt to find out that many of their political brethren are antisemtic asshats and can't accept it. It's true. People of all political stripes are capable of being assholes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 minute ago, oblong said: Some people are just so butt hurt to find out that many of their political brethren are antisemtic asshats and can't accept it. It's true. People of all political stripes are capable of being assholes. I am more liberal than most. I wanted European style socialism in the US long before Bernie Sanders made it chic. There is a radicalization happening on the left that is being influenced by Russia and Iran. People need to be more alarmed. These people are protesting Holocaust sites, targeting Jewish businesses, and forcing Jewish students to have to barricade themselves in libraries. They even protested the church where Dylan Roof killed those black people. It's just a matter of time before it escalates to violence. I cannot imagine if a bunch of people in red hats were shouting down Holocaust survivors at a meeting about Holocaust remembrance. They're no different than the dip****s in Khaki pants yelling Jews won't replace us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 11 minutes ago, GoBlue23 said: Another friendly reminder that the Jews aren't the "good guys" here. What if someone posted a clip of a Black guy holding up a store with the caption "Reminder that the blacks are not the good guys". That would go over well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 42 minutes ago, oblong said: Some people are just so butt hurt to find out that many of their political brethren are antisemtic asshats and can't accept it. It's true. People of all political stripes are capable of being assholes. Of course it's true that people of all stripes can be antisemitic, and that goes double if someone like Robert Kennedy Jr. is assigned to the left, something a lot of people do. (I myself wouldn't.) What I don't co-sign onto is the idea that anyone who raises any objection to the brutality of Israel's apparently indiscriminate destruction of Gaza is de facto engaging in antisemitism. I understand I'm inviting the obvious whatabout, but even granting that, Israel is bigger than Hamas, so more is expected of them in terms of proportional response. It's one of the reasons why Netanyahu's political fortunes are quickly waning in Israel: he is the author of the indiscriminate nature of the destruction, and the people who live in Israel, including many if not most Jews, expect better of their leaders. And that's also true of Jewish activists here in the United States: they expect better of Israel, their traditional homeland. "Not in our name" didn't start with histrionic college freshmen at Ivy League schools, after all. I am also surprised at how little room has developed for nuance on the discussion of this topic. This may be the most black-and-white issue I've ever seen on this board, meaning in terms of positions taken (rather than right-and-wrong). Edited March 28 by chasfh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: Of course it's true that people of all stripes can be antisemitic, and that goes double if someone like Robert Kennedy Jr. is assigned to the left, something a lot of people do. (I myself wouldn't.) What I don't co-sign onto is the idea that anyone who raises any objection to the brutality of Israel's apparently indiscriminate destruction of Gaza is de facto engaging in antisemitism. I understand I'm inviting the obvious whatabout, but even granting that, Israel is bigger than Hamas, so more is expected of them in terms of proportional response. It's one of the reasons why Netanyahu's political fortunes are quickly waning in Israel: he is the author of the indiscriminate nature of the destruction, and the people who live in Israel, including many if not most Jews, expect better of their leaders. And that's also true of Jewish leaders here in the United States. "Not in our name" didn't start with histrionic college freshmen at Ivy League schools, after all. I am also surprised at how little room has developed for nuance on the discussion of this topic. This may be the most black-and-white issue I've ever seen on this board, meaning in terms of positions taken (rather than right-and-wrong). So why are these protestors harassing Holocaust survivors, churches where blacks got massacred, Jewish hospitals, Jerry Seinfeld, Jewish businesses, Jewish college students, 9/11 site etc? What influence does Holocaust survivors have over Israel? They are targeting Jewish civilians in the US. It is antisemitic radicalization that is taking over a movement on the left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 LMFAO what a crappy troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 minute ago, pfife said: LMFAO what a crappy troll Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 just remember this dude already posted dozens of videos of people protesting at places other than the ones he just listed before you act like it's a good faith discussion happening here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 minute ago, pfife said: just remember this dude already posted dozens of videos of people protesting at places other than the ones he just listed before you act like it's a good faith discussion happening here. Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 minute ago, pfife said: just remember this dude already posted dozens of videos of people protesting at places other than the ones he just listed before you act like it's a good faith discussion happening here. Thank you, you saved me the effort of asking for evidence of what he's talking about. Are there actual news items reporting any of this? And is this all happening in scale, continuous and everywhere? Or is the evidence being offered basically uncorroborated one-off posts on X? I don't know either way, that's why I'm asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I couldn't imagine so blatantly contradicting onesself on the internet just to troll 5 middle age dudes and 1 very pleasant young lady, seems really weird honestly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, chasfh said: Thank you, you saved me the effort of asking for evidence of what he's talking about. Are there actual news items reporting any of this? And is this all happening in scale, continuous and everywhere? Or is the evidence being offered basically uncorroborated one-off posts on X? I don't know either way, that's why I'm asking. There's no reason to treat his posts seriously. He posted that they're only protesting Jewish stuff then the very next post of his was them protesting in the road. It's only the 100th time I and others have encountered him doing such trolly things so blatantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 12 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: So why are these protestors harassing Holocaust survivors, churches where blacks got massacred, Jewish hospitals, Jerry Seinfeld, Jewish businesses, Jewish college students, 9/11 site etc? What influence does Holocaust survivors have over Israel? They are targeting Jewish civilians in the US. It is antisemitic radicalization that is taking over a movement on the left. Holocaust survivor Black church Jewish hospital Jerry Seinfeld https://www.abqjournal.com/pro-palestinian-protest-held-outside-jerry-seinfeld-performance/article_c9650bca-cd42-11ee-ab20-2f773318895a.html Jewish business https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nyc-jewish-deli-swastika-2nd-ave-ues-israel-support Jewish students barricaded in library https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/harrowing-footage-jewish-students-barricade-themselves-in-library-as-pro-palestinian-mob-hammers-on-doors/ar-AA1iX6eL 9/11 site Bonus vandalizing Jewish pro Israel congressman https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/rep-dan-goldmans-brooklyn-office-vandalized/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 It has been shown that the Russian internet operatives were sowing discord in the US electorate years ago. Using social media to do things like promote and provoke protests -even purposely scheduling two protests at the same time and place to cause a confrontation. This is the goal. Make Americans fight amongst themselves. Create chaos. Amplify minor groups bad behaviors to make them seem to be a huge threat. Don’t take the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 18 minutes ago, pfife said: I couldn't imagine so blatantly contradicting onesself on the internet just to troll 5 middle age dudes and 1 very pleasant young lady, seems really weird honestly 15 minutes ago, pfife said: There's no reason to treat his posts seriously. He posted that they're only protesting Jewish stuff then the very next post of his was them protesting in the road. It's only the 100th time I and others have encountered him doing such trolly things so blatantly. Ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 lol Visegrad 24. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visegrád_24#Misinformation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 God bless Jerry Seinfeld, how brave he was to decide to still perform his show even with six menacing protesters in front of the theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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