The Gaza War

[pfife]

I'll let you take that up with TigerLOLic, he's the one that said everyone agreed with the demand made at UC Riverside. 

[pfife]

In the meantime, I'm sincerely sorry this outbreak of non violent conflict resolution and antisemitism resolution so the colleges can get back to the business of educating people happened to you.   

[Tigeraholic1]

Semester is over. We had to have our daughter moved out of her dorm in Chicago today. Mommy and Daddys money doesn't work during summer break. 

Edited May 4, 2024 by Tigeraholic1

[Motown Bombers]

They should have just given the Unite the Right anti semites in Charlottesville what they wanted to end the anti semitism. Would have avoided someone getting killed. 

[pfife]

I disagree 

[Motown Bombers]

I’m sorry a statue is more important to you than ending anti semitism and avoiding someone getting killed. 

[pfife]

Nice try.  I don't think the universities should cave in either circumstance, and in both circumstances they did not.

 

[Motown Bombers]

I’m sorry you feel a statue is more important than a woman’s life. 

[pfife]

And also the Heather Heyer murder didn't happen on a college campus but facts have never been your strong suit. 

 

[pfife]

Just now, Motown Bombers said:

I’m sorry you feel a statue is more important than a woman’s life. 

Apology rejected, I don't feel that way. 

[Motown Bombers]

I never said it did. 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

Even this dumbass gets it. 

 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[ben9753]

All they want is a some peaceful antisemitism.

[pfife]

The universities should reject those demands. 

[Motown Bombers]

Thread

 

[pfife]

On 5/2/2024 at 7:09 PM, Motown Bombers said:

Hamas doesn't get to call the shots.

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[pfife]

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/03/campus-protest-universities-student-arrest

Where college negotiations ended campus protest chaos

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Zoom in: The agreements that pushed protesters to take down their tents share key traits. They avoid sweeping and immediate changes to university investments in favor of scholarships and expanded academic programs.

1. None of the four schools agreed to divest from companies that do business in Israel or aid the country's war effort, a key demand at schools across the country. All agreed to less concrete concessions around their endowments.

• Northwestern promised additional transparency. Brown's board will hold a vote on a divestment proposal in the fall. Rutgers said it would review protester demands. Minnesota protesters will address the school's board.

2. Two of the agreements — Northwestern and Rutgers — include scholarships or aid for Palestinian students. They also promise to provide improved space for Muslim students.

• Rutgers said it would expand an existing relationship with a university in the West Bank.
• Minnesota told protesters it could explore an affiliation with a Palestinian university.

3. The agreements provide some level of amnesty for students involved in encampments.

• Brown and Rutgers said they wouldn't retaliate against protesters. Both schools — in matching language — added that they'd still investigate reports of bias, harassment or discrimination.
• Minnesota asked its police department not to arrest or charge anyone "based on the past few days."
• Northwestern agreed to allow one tent to remain for student protesters to use if they comply with the agreement.

The big picture: The Brown deal — where the school agreed to a vote, but not divestment itself — was a perfect compromise, said Frederick Lawrence, a lecturer at Georgetown and former president of Brandeis University.

• "I think it's a perfectly appropriate thing for the university to be prepared to do," he said. "I don't think the university has made a commitment of a result one way or the other."
• The compromise is a part of building trust between the administration and student groups, Lawrence said. "The truth is, the real work that makes a difference in moments like this typically [takes] place days, weeks and sometimes years ahead."

State of play: The nationwide demonstrations, which in some cases have included breaching school buildings, have been met with police force, arrests, suspensions and threats of expulsion.

 

• "Nobody can possibly think that bringing law enforcement in riot gear is a good outcome," Lawrence said.
• "Even people who can think it was necessary aren't going to think it was good. So avoiding things like this in the future has got to be a goal that everybody shares."

Reality check: Protesters at different schools have different demands. Students and administrators have to be willing to meet somewhere in the middle.

• The president of Columbia University, which has become the epicenter of the nationwide protests, said earlier this week that the Ivy League school "will not divest from Israel" after negotiations with student protesters stalled.

Between the lines: A spokesperson for Brown told Axios that divestment may not be as simple as students think, saying that the university doesn't invest directly in stocks but instead relies on "external specialist investment managers."

• Charlie Eaton, a sociology professor at the University of California, Merced, who studies endowments, told Axios that "it'll benefit universities in the long run to develop consensus among their campus community about what the values [are] and how do you apply them to your investments."

 

[Motown Bombers]

Never see them accost republicans. 

 

[pfife]

They don't attack republicans.... says the guy who blamed Parkland survivors and not Republicans for weakened gun laws and also abortion bans. 

 

 

Edited May 5, 2024 by pfife

[pfife]

Nice holding college students to higher standards than you chose to adhere to yourself.    Rad flex.