gehringer_2 Posted September 20 Author Share Posted September 20 3 hours ago, ben9753 said: Israel took down another scumbag in Beirut. Seems like they have no more ****s to give, and will do whatever it takes to ensure their safety. If you're on their naughty list, you can't be sleeping very well at night. Reports are that is was the guy who plotted the Marine Barracks bombing in '83 - now Hezbollah's military commander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 23 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Reports are that is was the guy who plotted the Marine Barracks bombing in '83 - now Hezbollah's military commander. They got another one responsible for that a few weeks ago didn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 9/19/2024 at 1:56 PM, gehringer_2 said: well, I suppose that since the Tsar already had his own terrorist secret police, it was/is sort of endemic in Russian history! Semantics alert: Some political scientists may argue that states cannot be said to be engaging in terrorism against residents within their own borders, since they define terrorism as the unlawful use of violence to achieve political ends, and established states get to set their own laws. As such, they hold that only non-stare actors can engage in actual terrorism. They would argue that North Korea is not a terrorist state, despite the extreme violence or the threat of it otherwise against their own people, because the state is operating legally as defined within their own laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Mayhem Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Semantics alert: Some political scientists may argue that states cannot be said to be engaging in terrorism against residents within their own borders, since they define terrorism as the unlawful use of violence to achieve political ends, and established states get to set their own laws. As such, they hold that only non-stare actors can engage in actual terrorism. They would argue that North Korea is not a terrorist state, despite the extreme violence or the threat of it otherwise against their own people, because the state is operating legally as defined within their own laws. You must be fun at parties boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 1 hour ago, chasfh said: Semantics alert: Some political scientists may argue that states cannot be said to be engaging in terrorism against residents within their own borders, since they define terrorism as the unlawful use of violence to achieve political ends, and established states get to set their own laws. As such, they hold that only non-stare actors can engage in actual terrorism. They would argue that North Korea is not a terrorist state, despite the extreme violence or the threat of it otherwise against their own people, because the state is operating legally as defined within their own laws. i agree there is certainly a connotative understanding in that direction. Then again there are cases that bleed out over the edges of definitions that attempt precision. Take Hamas or Hezbollah for a near at hand example. They practice non-state terror across their borders and tyrannical murderous management against their own population to maintain quasi state status at 'home'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 hour ago, Biff Mayhem said: You must be fun at parties boss. I am! Especially at parties where people are discussing terrorism! 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted Sunday at 02:19 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:19 PM If any other country raided and shutdown a media entity like this US Diplomats and government officials would publicly freaking out and potentially responding with harsh action. But somehow, Jewish Trump will be able to get away with opposing and oppressing free press. This is an outrageous and dangerous step towards fascism on Jewish Trump's part. Just as we here in the United States are concerned about America's step towards fascism if Donald Trump gets elected again, Jewish Trump is already doing what we fear in Isreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Mayhem Posted Sunday at 02:28 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:28 PM 7 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: If any other country raided and shutdown a media entity like this US Diplomats and government officials would publicly freaking out and potentially responding with harsh action. But somehow, Jewish Trump will be able to get away with opposing and oppressing free press. This is an outrageous and dangerous step towards fascism on Jewish Trump's part. Just as we here in the United States are concerned about America's step towards fascism if Donald Trump gets elected again, Jewish Trump is already doing what we fear in Isreal. Would you change your mind if it was shown that they were providing communication capabilities for the country’s enemy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Sunday at 02:30 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:30 PM Just now, Biff Mayhem said: Would you change your mind if it was shown that they were providing communication capabilities for the country’s enemy? The only enemy is Israel. They be doing genocides left and right and are colonizers. They even genocided all the cats and dogs in Gaza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted Sunday at 04:03 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:03 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted Sunday at 04:34 PM Share Posted Sunday at 04:34 PM I’m no expert, does Israel’s constitution guarantee freedom of the Press? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted Tuesday at 04:39 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:39 PM On 9/22/2024 at 10:28 AM, Biff Mayhem said: Would you change your mind if it was shown that they were providing communication capabilities for the country’s enemy? If there was evidence that Al Jazeera was actively aiding Hamas it might change my mind, but this is a really bad look. Is there evidence to support such a claim at this time? Israel and it's regime lead by a wannabe dictator are trending in very, very dangerous territory here. When governmental agencies, lead by the command of a wannabe dictator, can come in and stifle the press and decide what is and isn't legit news media and coverage, that's not acceptable. That's the kind of actions Trump wants to take here by changing liable laws, litigating the press in court, and stymieing any journalistic coverage that's not favorable to him. If you are freaked out and concerned with Trump's dangerous rhetoric towards the press, we should be freaked out when his authoritarian Israeli counterpart does it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted Tuesday at 05:20 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 05:20 PM On 9/22/2024 at 12:03 PM, Motown Bombers said: First rule of warfare is that you can't start one and then complain you get back worse than you gave. Not the way it works in the real world. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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