11/17/2023 7:30 EDT Cleveland Cavaliers vs Detroit Pistons *Group Stage In season Tourney

[buddha]

cant wait for the piston beat writers' articles about how the loss was expected because we didnt have joe harris and bogdan bogdanovich.

donovan mitchell?  who?  how can we be expected to keep the game in single digits without isaiah livers!!!!!

[buddha]

2 minutes ago, buddha said:

cant wait for the piston beat writers' articles about how the loss was expected because we didnt have joe harris and bogdan bogdanovich.

donovan mitchell?  who?  how can we be expected to keep the game in single digits without isaiah livers!!!!!

and then they rally to cut it to 8.  lol.

even emoni bates got in the game.

[Deleterious]

2 hours ago, buddha said:

so cleveland sat their best player tonight against detroit, eh?

what a surprise.

This isn't discussed enough.  It seems every game the other team sits at least one of its top players.  So we are losing, but losing to the JV team.  

[Deleterious]

He isn't wrong.  But what about Cade?  And this is coming from the biggest Cade fan boy there is.

 

[Hart]

The honeymoon phase for Monty certainly didn't last long. 

 

[Hart]

If Monty won't play Ivey heavy minutes because of his defense, what's he going to do with Bojan?  

[casimir]

20 hours ago, buddha said:

serves the clippers right.  i hope kwahi and george leave after this year.

Wouldn't it better if they kept their malaise there?

[Deleterious]

I actually like that Williams is holding the young guys accountable. I think in the long term that'll make them all better players. I just hate the fact he's only doing it for 14 of the 15 guys on the roster.

[casimir]

12 hours ago, buddha said:

so cleveland sat their best player tonight against detroit, eh?

what a surprise.

Its not as good of a phrase as your "quadrant of woe", but I think the NBA sees the Pistons as the "scheduled game of rest".

[Deleterious]

Well this is new.  At least to me.

 

[buddha]

in fairness to the pistons, they are missing two starters in morris and bogey.  one who would theoretically take some of the playmaking load off cade and the other who would provide floor spacing.

cant really judge how the team looks until/if those guys come back.

that said, with the weakest draft in memory on tap its almost a guarantee the pistons win the lottery.

compare them with houston.  they have accumulated #1 picks and took green, seguin, thompson, and jabari smith.  we accumulated first rounders and took cade, ivey, killian, bey, stewart, and thompson.

green and cade are different players with different roles so its hard to compare.  seguin is a better player than stewart, imo.  our thompson has looked better than there's.  smith has been very up and down as has ivey.  and we traded bey for the ultimate waste of space.

houston spent money on vanvleet and brooks.  we traded our cap space/assets to get bogey, bagley, wiseman, morris, deandre jordan, burkes, and joe harris.

there's your difference, right?  they took their cap space to get a solid point guard starter and an agitating role player and we traded ours for second round picks, big men washouts, and two injured players.

not sure which is the best LONG term plan, but in the short term we really look bad compared to them.

 

[Deleterious]