Week Fourteen: Detroit Lions (9-3) @ Chicago Bears (4-8)

[TP_Fan]

Watching the Vikings. If we would have fired AG and hired Flores this team would be tough team man.  Flores is so good at defense.  Aaron Glenn is not a legit DC in this league and Campbells nepotism is contributing to the pending collapse. 

Edited December 10, 2023 by TP_Fan

[number20]

31 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Does it feel like this season when a team gets a second look at the Lions, ie a division opponent, they improve against us and we don't make adjustments and get better? I know, we beat the Bears the last time by adjusting late in the game and winning. But it feels like both Chicago and Green Bay adjust to our gameplan and we don't as effectively to them. 

Seems like all teams adjust every 3rd quarter of every game

[The Ronz]

The Lions aren't making the playoffs.

Great seeing Donna Pescow again in that Capital One commercial.

 

[TP_Fan]

Rewatching some of this game, Hutchinson was the worst defender on the field in the second half. Trying too hard.  Both TDs were his fault.  The egregious offside, can’t even try and defend that, and then on fields 3rd and 11, he stunts inside and leaves his half of the field wide open while being wiped out.   Low IQ football from him. That’s more coaching I think.  They should have known in 4th and 13 they aren’t snapping  it.  3rd and 11. You just have to keep the edge. Just ugly. 

Edited December 10, 2023 by TP_Fan

[TP_Fan]

The more I watch the more I want coaches fired.  Egregious at every level.   This ain’t a legit coaching staff right now.  They are being absolutely dominated after the half. 

[TP_Fan]

And Dan campbell.  The 4th down calls have been bad and he hasn’t won a challenge this season.  It’s becoming a problem. 

[number20]

1 minute ago, The Ronz said:

The Lions aren't making the playoffs.

Whenever anyone asks who I think will win the Super Bowl, my answer is always the same... it depends on which team peaks at the right time. We've all seen good teams steamroll thru the season - only to crater in the playoffs. And we've seen mediocre teams back in and go on an unbelievable run.

Are the Lions are in danger of falling short of the playoffs now? It'll depend on whether they can somehow get it together and peak late. Maybe not probable. But it's possible

[Sports_Freak]

Special Teams weren't very good today either. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

14 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

And Dan campbell.  The 4th down calls have been bad and he hasn’t won a challenge this season.  It’s becoming a problem. 

His decision to go for it in the second quarter was not the right decision.

[Motor City Sonics]

Last year they started 1-6 and finished 9-8 and this year it looks like they will start 5-1 and finish 9-8.   

 

Jared Goff is great when everything is perfect but if anything, anything at all breaks down, he's just not good.  

 

My 38-20 prediction was not that far off.     

 

Denver 24, Lions 16 next week.  

[Motor City Sonics]

It's okay Josh Dobbs, you get the Lions in a few weeks, you'll bounce back . 

[TP_Fan]

Vikings win. Flores is a real DC.  You need to fire Glenn tomorrow.  It has to happen or what’s the point of any of this?  Seriously. Why even try if you’re gonna employ the worst coordinator in sports.  

[TP_Fan]

Lions won’t he compete for next week.  
 

denver 41, lions 10

[NYLion]

I'm pretty down on the Lions but it is amusing seeing TP yelling at himself.

[buddha]

1 hour ago, TP_Fan said:

The more I watch the more I want coaches fired.  Egregious at every level.   This ain’t a legit coaching staff right now.  They are being absolutely dominated after the half. 

lol.

[buddha]

if the lions win more than 10 games this season will be a success, imo.

all this talk of them being better than san fran or philly was just wishcasting.  

the nfl is a week to week league.  the lions need to get their act together and win a couple more games and win the division.  that will be a great success considering the lack of talent this team has on defense.

last week you were all gushing over jared goff.  still feeling that way now?  lol.

[TP_Fan]

1 minute ago, buddha said:

if the lions win more than 10 games this season will be a success, imo.

all this talk of them being better than san fran or philly was just wishcasting.  

the nfl is a week to week league.  the lions need to get their act together and win a couple more games and win the division.  that will be a great success considering the lack of talent this team has on defense.

last week you were all gushing over jared goff.  still feeling that way now?  lol.

Where do you see the wins coming?  Sean Payton is going to eat Glenn for lunch.  Can’t win in Minnesota. Dallas? No shot.  Only real chance to win a game is home against the Vikings and then the playoffs will likely be on the line. 

[buddha]

5 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

Where do you see the wins coming?  Sean Payton is going to eat Glenn for lunch.  Can’t win in Minnesota. Dallas? No shot.  Only real chance to win a game is home against the Vikings and then the playoffs will likely be on the line. 

i think they'll beat the broncos and the vikings at home.

i give them a really good chance of beating the vikings on the road too.  i think the vikings may not win another game.

[Jason_R]

12 minutes ago, buddha said:

if the lions win more than 10 games this season will be a success, imo.

all this talk of them being better than san fran or philly was just wishcasting.  

the nfl is a week to week league.  the lions need to get their act together and win a couple more games and win the division.  that will be a great success considering the lack of talent this team has on defense.

last week you were all gushing over jared goff.  still feeling that way now?  lol.

I haven't heard anyone say the Lions are better than SF or Philly. I have hoped they might end up with a better record than SF or Philly since those teams both had first place schedules and have tougher divisional opponents than Detroit. 

At the start of the season I had the Lions winning 11 games. With four games remaining, they are still on track to win 11. (I know there is a lot of handwringing, but I don't see them losing even one game to Minnesota, which struggled to muster three points against the Raiders today.) I don't see them being a threat to Dallas, but Denver is a tossup. 

[buddha]

1 minute ago, Jason_R said:

I haven't heard anyone say the Lions are better than SF or Philly. I have hoped they might end up with a better record than SF or Philly since those teams both had first place schedules and have tougher divisional opponents than Detroit. 

At the start of the season I had the Lions winning 11 games. With four games remaining, they are still on track to win 11. (I know there is a lot of handwringing, but I don't see them losing even one game to Minnesota, which struggled to muster three points against the Raiders today.) I don't see them being a threat to Dallas, but Denver is a tossup. 

multiple people in multiple lions threads on this site have either outright written as much, or implied as much numerous times.

i said 10 wins.  now i think they'll win 11.

[Sports_Freak]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

His decision to go for it in the second quarter was not the right decision.

Going for it has the possibility of putting a lot of pressure on your defense. If you have a top ranked defense, you can get away with a failed 4th down attempt. The Lions don't have a top ranked defense, so it's a bad move, going for it from your side of the 50.

[Jason_R]

4 minutes ago, Sports_Freak said:

Going for it has the possibility of putting a lot of pressure on your defense. If you have a top ranked defense, you can get away with a failed 4th down attempt. The Lions don't have a top ranked defense, so it's a bad move, going for it from your side of the 50.

He choked again. Sometimes his 4th down attempts are well timed to put pressure on the opponent. Sometimes they are when he feels pressure. Today's was the latter.

It doesn't seem like anyone trusts anyone else right now. Everyone is pressing, and it all goes back to the Baltimore game when they could not do a thing to stop the Ravens. Well, they haven't been able to do much to stop anyone else since. I suspect that's what Campbell was talking about today when he blamed execution. 

[Jason_R]

1 hour ago, Jason_R said:

He choked again. Sometimes his 4th down attempts are well timed to put pressure on the opponent. Sometimes they are when he feels pressure. Today's was the latter.

It doesn't seem like anyone trusts anyone else right now. Everyone is pressing, and it all goes back to the Baltimore game when they could not do a thing to stop the Ravens. Well, they haven't been able to do much to stop anyone else since. I suspect that's what Campbell was talking about today when he blamed execution. 

Here’s the defense saying as much.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2023/12/10/detroit-lions-defense-has-officially-lost-our-confidence-and-swagger/71874273007/

[NYLion]

3 hours ago, buddha said:

multiple people in multiple lions threads on this site have either outright written as much, or implied as much numerous times.

i said 10 wins.  now i think they'll win 11.

Multiple people on this site said they thought the Lions were better than SF and Philly? I know MB was posting stats comparing the Lions defense to the Eagles defense but I think most outside of TP of course have had some pretty measured expectations throughout.

[Jason_R]

ARSB: 9 targets, 3 receptions, 21 yards. (Two drops?) 

Laporta: 6 targets, 2 receptions, 23 yards. 

Took away Goff’s security blankets and he couldn’t get anything done. 

Edited December 11, 2023 by Jason_R