Detroit Lions 2024 Offseason Thread

[Mr.TaterSalad]

I saw the Vikings uniform as the x was loading and almost jumped out of my chair thinking it was us signing Hunter.

[NYLion]

4 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 I haven't seen any player sign yet that I would say I really wish the Lions signed that player to that contract. 

Same here. Still lots of big names out there, that I don't think Holmes will sign, but they're out there still. 

It does seem like if he does go big, it'll be at CB and the market is still flush with them.

[MichiganCardinal]

 

[RandyMarsh]

2 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

 

Those folks you saw at the game with the Carlton Davis jerseys will be happy!

[buddha]

58.2 pff grade last year.  owed $14 million.

ymmv on pff grades.

[MichiganCardinal]

At the Lions-Bucs playoff game, Carlton Davis’ mother and family sat two rows in front of me.

When he was called for a penalty late in the game, my (dumbass) friend yelled out “WHAT HAPPENED DAVIS” and his mother turned around and said “Some BULL**** that’s what!”

[NYLion]

8 minutes ago, NYLion said:

Same here. Still lots of big names out there, that I don't think Holmes will sign, but they're out there still. 

It does seem like if he does go big, it'll be at CB and the market is still flush with them.

Channeled my inner Nostradamus with this one. Carlton Davis was really good a few years ago, not sure how you fared last year but this is Brad's big swing.

[Motown Bombers]

They could be looking to extend him and convert his salary to a bonus and lower his cap hit. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

7 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Looking at the numbers for him and Sutton, they seem like similar players. A PFF grade of 58 with 52 tackles and 2 INTs on 79 targets for Davis. A 56 PFF grade, with 65 tackles and 1 INT on 89 targets for Sutton.

[MichiganCardinal]

 

[RandyMarsh]

Davis isn't a stud or anything but I think he's definitely better than what we had last year, I'd still like to get somebody like Gilmore on a 1 year deal too along with drafting a guy early. I think if that were to happen then Gilmore, Davis, draft pick along with hopefully a healthy and somewhat productive Mosely would be a huge upgrade over what we were working with last year.

[Motown Bombers]

That comp was more than what I was expecting. Have to say, I don't find this move very exciting. 

[RandyMarsh]

2 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

 

That's more than I was expecting, was hoping/thinking it was basically a salary dump by TB and we were going to get him for like a 5th. 

[MichiganCardinal]

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

That comp was more than what I was expecting. Have to say, I don't find this move very exciting. 

I agree. I know they’re getting return picks, but I was hoping we wouldn’t give up a pick before day three. 

[NYLion]

4 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

That's more than I was expecting, was hoping/thinking it was basically a salary dump by TB and we were going to get him for like a 5th. 

It essentially amounted to about a 4th with the two 6ths in return. Not so bad IMO, this is more of a win now mode and they still have 3 picks in the first 3 rounds.

Also, it was the Lions 3rd not the Vikings one so a lot closer to a 4th.

Edited March 11, 2024 by NYLion

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Davis isn't a stud or anything but I think he's definitely better than what we had last year, I'd still like to get somebody like Gilmore on a 1 year deal too along with drafting a guy early. I think if that were to happen then Gilmore, Davis, draft pick along with hopefully a healthy and somewhat productive Mosely would be a huge upgrade over what we were working with last year.

Is Davis a big upgrade over Sutton? On paper he doesn't seem to be. Bot not having watched a ton of Bucs games, I don't if he passes the eyeball test of being markedly better than Sutton and taking on the CB1 responsibilities of covering the opposing teams WR1.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

This also means we're out on trading for Sneed or signing Fuller probably right?

Edited March 11, 2024 by Mr.TaterSalad

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Is Davis a big upgrade over Sutton? On paper he doesn't seem to be. Bot not having watched a ton of Bucs games, I don't if he passes the eyeball test of being markedly better than Sutton and taking on the CB1 responsibilities of covering the opposing teams WR1.

Why do you keep comparing him to Sutton? Sutton isn't going anywhere. He's replacing Jerry Jacobs and Kindle Vildor. He is an upgrade over those two. 

[RandyMarsh]

Just now, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Is Davis a big upgrade over Sutton? On paper he doesn't seem to be. Bot not having watched a ton of Bucs games, I don't if he passes the eyeball test of being markedly better than Sutton and taking on the CB1 responsibilities of covering the opposing teams WR1.

Im not sure if he is or not but as much as I would love to have a bonafide stud I don't think it's necessarily a must, I just want to avoid running out 1 or 2 complete duds like we did last year. If we can get a rotation of competent guys I think we will be alright. 

[NYLion]

2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Why do you keep comparing him to Sutton? Sutton isn't going anywhere. He's replacing Jerry Jacobs and Kindle Vildor. He is an upgrade over those two. 

Exactly right, he's replacing the fringe guys. He might not be a true 1 but they have two quality corners now instead of one quality guy and a replacement level guy. Moseley is the insurance, when he's ready to play.

Personally, I would have preferred signing a guy like Fuller who is probably on Davis's level and not giving up the draft compensation but maybe that wasn't in the cards for Holmes.

[MichiganCardinal]

5 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Im not sure if he is or not but as much as I would love to have a bonafide stud I don't think it's necessarily a must, I just want to avoid running out 1 or 2 complete duds like we did last year. If we can get a rotation of competent guys I think we will be alright. 

They wanted Witherspoon in the draft last year. I expect they’ll still be in the market for a corner this draft. I expect they are out on Sneed but maybe not out on corner altogether. Having a CB1 rookie in the shadows waiting wouldn’t be too bad.

[Motown Bombers]

I'm kind of shocked only a 2nd and a 5th even though he's only on the franchise tag. Carolina really mishandled this one. 

 

[Hongbit]

I’m very meh on this trade.  I’ll trust Brad but it sounds like we’ve acquired another #2 corner at the cost of a 3rd round pick.   

[Mr.TaterSalad]

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

Why do you keep comparing him to Sutton? Sutton isn't going anywhere. He's replacing Jerry Jacobs and Kindle Vildor. He is an upgrade over those two. 

Because we need a corner capable of covering a team's WR1 and Sutton got burnt in several games last year covering other teams WR1.

[RandyMarsh]

2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I'm kind of shocked only a 2nd and a 5th even though he's only on the franchise tag. Carolina really mishandled this one. 

 

The Giants may not have much else but they should have a dominant pass rush, just another guy to help Thibs get a bunch of clean up sacks.