Detroit Lions 2024 Offseason Thread

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Ahhhhh yes, the great was it Brad Holmes or was it really all Brandon Sosna debate. Now I guess we get to see was it really Brad Holmes as the brains of the operation or was it all Sosna. This is like the debate around was it really Belichick or was it all Brady. In all seriousness though, this guy sounds like a pretty sharp kid and a some what of a loss for the Lions.

Edited May 20, 2024 by Mr.TaterSalad

[RandyMarsh]

Its weird to be a fan of a team that have executives and coaches that other teams want. 

[Motown Bombers]

The Lions are a destination now so they will be able to hire the next up and comer. 

[1984Echoes]

49 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

The Lions are a destination now so they will be able to hire the next up and comer. 

We will be poached...

And we will be a destination for new up-and-comers...

So...

Yes.

[1984Echoes]

PS: Who did we lose prior to the 2023 season?

Front office and coaching staff:

Duce Staley and...?

[Motown Bombers]

When did Lance Newmark leave? I feel that was recently. 

[1984Echoes]

Dave Sears...? Director of College Scouting?

[1984Echoes]

2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

When did Lance Newmark leave? I feel that was recently. 

To the Commanders as Assistant GM on Feb 14th, 2024.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

We lost Kevin Colbert to the Steelers in the 1990s. It's too bad Bill Ford Jr. didn't offer him the job of GM instead of Millen. Though, had he, fans would have just bitched that they promoted from within like many of us did when Mayhew got bumped as next man up.

[1984Echoes]

1 minute ago, 1984Echoes said:

Dave Sears...? Director of College Scouting?

January 2023 to the Arizona Cardinals as Assistant GM.

[Motown Bombers]

That 90's Lions front office also had Rick Spielman and Thomas Dimitroff as well. Both of those guys did go on to build playoff teams.  

[Jason_R]

There is so much talent in this league that every franchise has some of it. But leadership matters. 

[buddha]

6 hours ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

We lost Kevin Colbert to the Steelers in the 1990s. It's too bad Bill Ford Jr. didn't offer him the job of GM instead of Millen. Though, had he, fans would have just bitched that they promoted from within like many of us did when Mayhew got bumped as next man up.

don shula and bill belichick were also on the lions staff. different than front office, but still...

also, jerry vianisi left to lead the wlrld league of american football...

[Hongbit]

Sosna is a admin and numbers guy. All off field stuff and he had nothing to do with picking the players. They also still have Mike Disner.   He could be the most easily replaceable of all the front office guys.  

[RandyMarsh]

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-25-players-under-25-2024-nfl-season-sauce-gardner-cj-stroud

Five Lions make the top 25 including Sewell at number 1!

[Jimbo]

It'll be interesting to see who will have the better career.  Nacua or Brown?  They will be compared because of their later round picks and it being the Rams and Lions.  If I was a betting man I would go with Brown since he has had more successful seasons and has stayed healthy.  Although Nacua was crazy last year and it was only his rookie season.  The playoff game against us was ridiculous although it was against last years secondary.

Edited May 21, 2024 by Jimbo

[Motown Bombers]

14 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-25-players-under-25-2024-nfl-season-sauce-gardner-cj-stroud

Five Lions make the top 25 including Sewell at number 1!

You could make the case that Branch and McNeil belong on that list. It's possible Campbell, Williams and/or Arnold make the list next year. I also like with all the hype the Packers are getting about being so young, not a single Packer made the list. I also didn't see any Bear or Viking. I would be shocked if a Viking made it given Kwesi's terrible draft record. 

[RatkoVarda]

2 hours ago, Jimbo said:

It'll be interesting to see who will have the better career.  Nacua or Brown?  They will be compared because of their later round picks and it being the Rams and Lions.  If I was a betting man I would go with Brown since he has had more successful seasons and has stayed healthy.  Although Nacua was crazy last year and it was only his rookie season.  The playoff game against us was ridiculous although it was against last years secondary.

Nacua was the 20th (!) WR taken. How does a guy like that last until the 177th pick? if he was at a bigger school/conference, I wonder if he would have been overlooked. Everyone passed on him multiple times. Just amazing production. obviously, having Stafford as your QB does not hurt.

[MichiganCardinal]

10 hours ago, RatkoVarda said:

Nacua was the 20th (!) WR taken. How does a guy like that last until the 177th pick? if he was at a bigger school/conference, I wonder if he would have been overlooked. Everyone passed on him multiple times. Just amazing production. obviously, having Stafford as your QB does not hurt.

I think that last part can’t be understated. An okay or mediocre WR can be made into a really good WR with the right QB chemistry. See Kenny Golladay.

Not saying Kupp is Golladay, to be clear.

[MichiganCardinal]

On 5/20/2024 at 10:17 AM, Motown Bombers said:

 

His job will probably be much easier in a place where no contract extensions take place.

[buddha]

1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I think that last part can’t be understated. An okay or mediocre WR can be made into a really good WR with the right QB chemistry. See Kenny Golladay.

Not saying Kupp is Golladay, to be clear.

yeah, matt stafford is a really good qb.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I think that last part can’t be understated. An okay or mediocre WR can be made into a really good WR with the right QB chemistry. See Kenny Golladay.

Not saying Kupp is Golladay, to be clear.

See, when Stafford was here the Stafford fans were saying the exact opposite. When Stafford critics, like myself, would bring up the whole "who has he made better" argument we were often dismissed and told how non-elite QBs don't really make WRs all that better. When critics would bring up some of the names that guys like Brady, Farve, Rogers, and other QBs made better critics were often rebuked thar those were elite QBs and you can't compare Stafford to those players and expect him to be at their level.

[NYLion]

On 5/20/2024 at 6:26 PM, RandyMarsh said:

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-top-25-players-under-25-2024-nfl-season-sauce-gardner-cj-stroud

Five Lions make the top 25 including Sewell at number 1!

Trevor Lawrence at 3 is based on ???

I would rank St. Brown ahead of Hutch. He's top 5 as far as I'm concerned. Sewell, Gardner, Chase, St. Brown would be my top 4. I know that Wilson has had nothing for QBs throwing to him and he's quite a talent but how is he ranked ahead of St. Brown?

Edited May 22, 2024 by NYLion

[Motown Bombers]

1 hour ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

See, when Stafford was here the Stafford fans were saying the exact opposite. When Stafford critics, like myself, would bring up the whole "who has he made better" argument we were often dismissed and told how non-elite QBs don't really make WRs all that better. When critics would bring up some of the names that guys like Brady, Farve, Rogers, and other QBs made better critics were often rebuked thar those were elite QBs and you can't compare Stafford to those players and expect him to be at their level.

Well no you were provided examples like Golden Tate but seemed to dismiss that.