Tigeraholic1 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 24 minutes ago, chasfh said: I don’t know. I mean, based on all of our histories with baseball for the last half century or so, we all see that as perfectly cricket. But they did explicitly make a rule to ban slides exactly like that, and Hoskins broke that ban. On the video I heard Darling says he thought it was a clean slide, but he’s in his 60s, too, so he might not have internalized the memo completely yet. Hoskins did make McNeil’s knee buckle, so a serious injury could have ensued. And McNeil restricted his encounter with Hoskins to yelling, and Hoskins just trotted away like nothing happened, and didn’t reply to McNeil until he was 50 or so feet away. That’s a very 2024 thing to happen. They reviewed it and called it a clean slide. Isn’t the rule also that the runner has to make an attempted slide? Kind of a catch 22 there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 9 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: McNeil from the Mets. You're supposed to get the ball and get out of the way. Don't blame Hoskins on that. It wouldn't hurt to add a video of what you're barking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 3 minutes ago, casimir said: It wouldn't hurt to add a video of what you're barking about. Thought I did but I guess it didn't load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Thought I did but I guess it didn't load. Measure twice, cut once. Or something like that. 😁 Edited March 30 by casimir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, chasfh said: But they did explicitly make a rule to ban slides exactly like that, and Hoskins broke that ban. On the video I heard Darling says he thought it was a clean slide, but he’s in his 60s, too, so he might not have internalized the memo completely yet. Hoskins did slide directly to the bag and even managed to stay on it despite his overslide which I think is what the rule requires. A slide toward the 2B that does not get you directly to the bag would be a violation, but Hoskins didn't do that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: They reviewed it and called it a clean slide. Isn’t the rule also that the runner has to make an attempted slide? Kind of a catch 22 there. I guess that's right. As I re-read the slide rule ... When sliding into a base in an attempt to break up a double play, a runner has to make a "bona fide slide." Such is defined as the runner making contact with the ground before reaching the base, being able to reach the base with a hand or foot, being able to remain on the base at the completion of the slide (except at home plate) and not changing his path for the purpose of initiating contact with a fielder. The slide rule prohibits runners from using a "roll block" or attempting to initiate contact with the fielder by elevating and kicking his leg above the fielder's knee, throwing his arm or his upper body or grabbing the fielder. When a violation of the slide rule occurs, the offending runner and the batter-runner will be called out. Accidental contact can occur in the course of a permissible slide, and a runner will not be called for interference if contact is caused by a fielder being in the runner's legal pathway to the base. ... it doesn't appear to ban straight-on contact even if apparently intentional, which I thought I walked away believing it did after I read the rule the first time, so it appears that it was McNeil's responsibility to avoid Hoskins. Maybe McNeil himself misunderstood the rule and thought Hoskins had to avoid all contact. I wonder what happens when someone makes a legal slide within the letter of the law and ends up tearing a shortstop's ACL in the process. It's gonna happen, and it's gonna be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 35 minutes ago, chasfh said: I wonder what happens when someone makes a legal slide within the letter of the law and ends up tearing a shortstop's ACL in the process. It's gonna happen, and it's gonna be interesting. Reminds me of the unintentional rule in the NFL that causes ACL injuries due to legal hits. See TJ Hockenson Kirby Joseph. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 He rubbed their faces in it some more today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 This is brutal with two strikes and two outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 hours ago, Hongbit said: This is brutal with two strikes and two outs. Not even a breaking ball or near the margins. That why they need to bring in the challenge system. In Dreckman's defense he may have blinked or coughed, whatever - everyone is human - but there is no need for the team to be cost a game because of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TJ Rollercoaster Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Jays just got no-hit by Ronel Blanco of Houston - a 30 year old reliever making just his 8th start of his career Edited April 2 by TJ Rollercoaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 9 hours ago, oblong said: Its 9-0, bottom of the 8th, weather sucks. If I'm the home plate umpire, I ain't waiting. Batter, get in the box, start the pitch clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 10 hours ago, TJ Rollercoaster said: Jays just got no-hit by Ronel Blanco of Houston - a 30 year old reliever making just his 8th start of his career That’s what modern pitch-shaping can lead to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Dodgers claimed Taylor Trammel, so you just know he will be an all-star next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 20 hours ago, oblong said: Definitely the first time seeing something like this, them asking for anybody to coach first base brings me back to my High School days where we didn't have a full time 1st base coach so whomever made the last out the previous inning had to do it. Needless to say I was "coaching" first base alot cause of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Be careful out there today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Considering how injury prone Buxton has been in his career I'm surprised it didn't hit him and take him out for the year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 5 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Considering how injury prone Buxton has been in his career I'm surprised it didn't hit him and take him out for the year. If I'm the Twins' front office and Buxton hits the IL because of a costumed weenie, I'm looking for draft compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Rollercoaster Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 9 hours ago, casimir said: If I'm the Twins' front office and Buxton hits the IL because of a costumed weenie, I'm looking for draft compensation. Since this was Milwaukee, do you think the compensation would be Miller's or a micro-brewery product? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Xfinity became too expensive so I went to WOW cable and I stream YahooTV. I really liked it, at first. Now, I discover there's no MLB Netork and that really sucks. Bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 22 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: Definitely the first time seeing something like this, them asking for anybody to coach first base brings me back to my High School days where we didn't have a full time 1st base coach so whomever made the last out the previous inning had to do it. Needless to say I was "coaching" first base alot cause of that. Listening to the whole story, it was the coaches inability to find the right helmet. MLB has been making coaches wear hard type helmets for safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 10 hours ago, casimir said: Be careful out there today. almost pay back for Randall Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: Listening to the whole story, it was the coaches inability to find the right helmet. MLB has been making coaches wear hard type helmets for safety. You would think something like that would be attended to well before the game not in the 8th inning of the second home series. Horrible franchise, If I still lived there it would be enough to make me a Kane County fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: You would think something like that would be attended to well before the game not in the 8th inning of the second home series. Horrible franchise, If I still lived there it would be enough to make me a Kane County fan Or a Cubs fan. My DIL-to-be works for the Cubbies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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