SoCalTiger Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Jung is back to AAA to start 2025 in my book but could still get 250 AB's in the show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Using W-L as a barometer for a pitchers’s success basically discredits any future opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Signs from yesterday's New York City Marathon. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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casimir Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 11 hours ago, Tenacious D said: That's great. Now somebody do something about cutting down commercial time during college football games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, casimir said: That's great. Now somebody do something about cutting down commercial time during college football games. that would be difficult to imagine because the most important consumers in the country are watching CFB games. All those dentists and insurance adjusters need to know about Gleem toothpaste! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 4 minutes ago, romad1 said: that would be difficult to imagine because the most important consumers in the country are watching CFB games. All those dentists and insurance adjusters need to know about Gleem toothpaste! I guess it does give me plenty of time to go to the bathroom, flip some laundry in the machines, take the vehicle for an oil change, grab a few sundries from the store, go to the bathroom again, and then sit back down to the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 1 minute ago, casimir said: I guess it does give me plenty of time to go to the bathroom, flip some laundry in the machines, take the vehicle for an oil change, grab a few sundries from the store, go to the bathroom again, and then sit back down to the game. very few sports that I watch without time shifting these days. Unless i'm watching with someone else. Then its harder to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 5 Author Share Posted November 5 14 minutes ago, casimir said: I guess it does give me plenty of time to go to the bathroom, flip some laundry in the machines, take the vehicle for an oil change, grab a few sundries from the store, go to the bathroom again, and then sit back down to the game. Where's the closest Sundry store? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICroupier Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 22 hours ago, Dan Gilmore said: How about we consider something beyond W/L? Like FIP, or ERA+. Sure, let's look at ERA+. And we'll even cherry pick Montgomery's best 3-year stretch of 2021-2023. His combined ERA+ was 361. Now let's look at Maeda. I'm not going to cherry pick his best 3-year stretch and will, instead, use the same time period (but going back to 2020 to account for his missed season in 2022). His combined ERA+ was 355. Using FIP, Montgomery averaged 3.62, while Maeda's 3-year average was 3.71. So I'm still not seeing why Montgomery is viewed so positively, while Maeda is universally rated as garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 38 minutes ago, romad1 said: very few sports that I watch without time shifting these days. Unless i'm watching with someone else. Then its harder to do. I watched OSU and PSU at live time during the 2nd half. I had forgotten how awful the commercial time was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 27 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Where's the closest Sundry store? Krogers and Meijers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 23 hours ago, Dan Gilmore said: How about we consider something beyond W/L? Like FIP, or ERA+. ERA+ is OK, although I do prefer ERA-, which goes in the same direction as ERA, meaning lower is better. It’s also directionally the same as FIP-, and makes comparing the two much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted November 7 Author Share Posted November 7 Where the hell are the Rays going to play? Are they actually thinking of sinking 9 figures into a stadium they are leaving in 3 years? Can't take the roof off because there is no drainage system there and if you have ever been on the west coast of Florida - one thing it does in the Summer is rain. Not for long, but when it rains it rains hard (great lightning shows too - at least there was in Naples when I lived there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 4 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: Where the hell are the Rays going to play? Are they actually thinking of sinking 9 figures into a stadium they are leaving in 3 years? Can't take the roof off because there is no drainage system there and if you have ever been on the west coast of Florida - one thing it does in the Summer is rain. Not for long, but when it rains it rains hard (great lightning shows too - at least there was in Naples when I lived there). There was a recent Baseball America podcast that discussed many potential scenarios, recognizing that none were very ideal. Ultimately, I think they have to figure out a local option—can you imagine this happening to the Tigers, and the solution was that they had to move out of state (or country) for a few seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 4 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: Where the hell are the Rays going to play? Are they actually thinking of sinking 9 figures into a stadium they are leaving in 3 years? Can't take the roof off because there is no drainage system there and if you have ever been on the west coast of Florida - one thing it does in the Summer is rain. Not for long, but when it rains it rains hard (great lightning shows too - at least there was in Naples when I lived there). MLB wants them to play local-ish. So my guess is a spring training site, Lakeland, Disney etc. Miami apparently has too many scheduling issues with the schedule already set. They will just have to deal with rain at the outdoor sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1 hour ago, KL2 said: MLB wants them to play local-ish. So my guess is a spring training site, Lakeland, Disney etc. Miami apparently has too many scheduling issues with the schedule already set. They will just have to deal with rain at the outdoor sites. A problem with the spring training sites/stadiums is seating capacity, as well as minor league schedules that have a team playing the same series Tues-Sunday, which provides very limited scheduling flexibility. MLB schedules are already fixed for ‘25—I suppose MLB could put the burden on the minor league affiliate to accommodate this. Or, use multiple locations—ie, Lakeland, Tampa and others in the vicinity to provide greater flexibility. not my problem, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 Al Lang Stadium has been mentioned on several occasions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 (edited) 15 years ago, Vancouver’s CFL team needed a temporary place to play for 2 seasons while the roof of our domed stadium was being improved and the stadium renovated. Used a recreational football field in the east end of the city that had a seating capacity of 0. Parents would just stand along fences or the sidelines watching their youth play. So 27,000 seats of bleachers (some chairs, some long flat benches) were erected in 3 months for only $15mm. Then removed a couple of years later. Below is what the site looked before and after (upper pic) and during (lower pic). Edited November 8 by lordstanley 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 (edited) On 11/7/2024 at 2:07 PM, Tenacious D said: A problem with the spring training sites/stadiums is seating capacity, as well as minor league schedules that have a team playing the same series Tues-Sunday, which provides very limited scheduling flexibility. MLB schedules are already fixed for ‘25—I suppose MLB could put the burden on the minor league affiliate to accommodate this. Or, use multiple locations—ie, Lakeland, Tampa and others in the vicinity to provide greater flexibility. not my problem, though. Tampa doesn't have 8 k at normal games. Seating capacity wont be an issue And MLb would have no problem pushing a single A team to a backfield for a season or two. Edited November 8 by KL2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted November 8 Share Posted November 8 3 minutes ago, KL2 said: Tampa doesn't have 8 k at normal games. Seating capacity wont be an issue And MLb would have no problem pushing a single A team to a backfield for a season or two. They’ve already decided to let the Athletics move to a minor league park for a few seasons. So given the Tampa circumstances, why not allow the Rays to do the same under much less intentional consequences? Sure, they’ll need to scale up some of the facilities to make a minor league more of a major league field. But what are the other options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 Baseball forced itself into a bad look by allowing the A’s to **** around the way they did, and the Tampa thing is just adding to the bush league vibes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 18 minutes ago, chasfh said: Baseball forced itself into a bad look by allowing the A’s to **** around the way they did, and the Tampa thing is just adding to the bush league vibes. The Tampa thing is more of a victim of circumstance, at least in the immediate short term. I can understand not having a drainage system under a roof. The roof ripping off due to a hurricane probably wasn't on anyone's bingo card. I mean, I guess we've seen these kinds of flukes at other pro sports arenas. But baseball is a unique animal because of the combination of how its played every day and the fact that there aren't spare arenas in other locations of similar capacities. An NFL team could find another NFL park or a college park to play it. The NBA/NHL could shift a team to another arena as well (the New Orleans Hornets to Oklahoma City). I give MLB a bit of a pass for now, but as the offseason moves along, they'll need to get some kind of plan together. Now, if you want to consider how long that franchise has been trying to get a new play pen, I'll agree with you there. And that certainly applies in bolder font to the Athletics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 5 minutes ago, casimir said: The Tampa thing is more of a victim of circumstance, at least in the immediate short term. I can understand not having a drainage system under a roof. The roof ripping off due to a hurricane probably wasn't on anyone's bingo card. I mean, I guess we've seen these kinds of flukes at other pro sports arenas. But baseball is a unique animal because of the combination of how its played every day and the fact that there aren't spare arenas in other locations of similar capacities. An NFL team could find another NFL park or a college park to play it. The NBA/NHL could shift a team to another arena as well (the New Orleans Hornets to Oklahoma City). I give MLB a bit of a pass for now, but as the offseason moves along, they'll need to get some kind of plan together. Now, if you want to consider how long that franchise has been trying to get a new play pen, I'll agree with you there. And that certainly applies in bolder font to the Athletics. You’re right on all this, although I’m not talking about just the Tampa thing, which in isolation wouldn’t look so bad. In combination with the Oakland debacle, I think it has a multiplicative effect on how second-rate it makes MLB look. And you’re right, no drainage in a park specifically built for MLB is inexplicable. Or maybe not so much, I don’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaki Posted November 9 Share Posted November 9 On 11/5/2024 at 8:50 AM, Motor City Sonics said: Where's the closest Sundry store? You don't have a Dollar General in your back yard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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