2024 MLB Thread

[VegasTiger]

Hey, Rod Allen working for Ballys Miami.

[Sports_Freak]

Miami stinks. Just a horrible team.

[tiger2022]

10 hours ago, 1776 said:

My son and his family lived in Alameda for several years just before the Covid fiasco hit. They went to numerous A’s games and loved that team. They moved back east in 2020 and still followed the A’s big time. Today was a very big deal for my son. His buddy from Alameda, who attended many games with my son there almost convinced him to fly out for today’s game but he just couldn’t make it work. 
I hate it for the fans there. I hate it for baseball, period.

Why?  It's a business first and foremost.  The attendance was so low that it didn't make sense to stay there.  The stadium was a train wreck.

It's no different than a person switching companies for a much better personal situation.

[oblong]

11 hours ago, VegasTiger said:

Hey, Rod Allen working for Ballys Miami.

When I was in Florida this summer we went to a place that had the Miami game on and there he was.... it was kind of refreshing to hear his voice again. Like seeing a former co worker outside the office.  Different perspective.

[lordstanley]

 

[monkeytargets39]

7 hours ago, tiger2022 said:

Why?  It's a business first and foremost.  The attendance was so low that it didn't make sense to stay there.  The stadium was a train wreck.

It's no different than a person switching companies for a much better personal situation.

I don’t know that Vegas is going to support the team either though.  Especially if ownership isn’t going to try and field a competitive team.

They got the Raiders a few years back and LV is consistently one of the worst teams in NFL attendance.  
 

It’s definitely a business, but you’ve gotta be willing to spend some money to make money.  Reading the Twins messageboards the last couple weeks has been eye opening.  Ive seen fans that are so fed up with the Twins standing pat at the deadline and not going after much in free agency that they said they’d be fine if the Pohlads moved the team out of Minneapolis because they don’t want to give another dime to them and maybe another franchise with better owners would eventually move into that market.  

[gehringer_2]

58 minutes ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I don’t know that Vegas is going to support the team either though.  Especially if ownership isn’t going to try and field a competitive team.

They got the Raiders a few years back and LV is consistently one of the worst teams in NFL attendance.  
 

It’s definitely a business, but you’ve gotta be willing to spend some money to make money.  Reading the Twins messageboards the last couple weeks has been eye opening.  Ive seen fans that are so fed up with the Twins standing pat at the deadline and not going after much in free agency that they said they’d be fine if the Pohlads moved the team out of Minneapolis because they don’t want to give another dime to them and maybe another franchise with better owners would eventually move into that market.  

Only 17,000 at the Twins game last night. Pretty bad for a team that had been in the playoff hunt all season.

[casimir]

3 hours ago, monkeytargets39 said:

I don’t know that Vegas is going to support the team either though.  Especially if ownership isn’t going to try and field a competitive team.

Should be interesting to see how it works out.  Heck, I’m not sold that they’ll make it to Las Vegas to begin with.  I have a suspicion that falls through and the Athletics end up in Nashville.

I heard a theory this morning that if ownership changes hands and if there’s some turnover in Oakland politics, there’s now a situation to tear down the old dump and replace it on the spot.  I’m not sure that’s likely at all, but who knows how this will all shake out.

[CMRivdogs]

What happens to the AAA franchise that's already there? Do they get shipped to Sacramento or someplace or since they're the A's franchise do they catch an Uber to the new park?

From what I heard from a couple of locals when we were there in April, they're not really thrilled with the location. Traffic is already bad enough, parking seems dicey at best. There is also enough other entertainment one would think an A's game would be way down the list.
 

[chasfh]

On 9/27/2024 at 12:55 PM, monkeytargets39 said:

I don’t know that Vegas is going to support the team either though.  Especially if ownership isn’t going to try and field a competitive team.

They got the Raiders a few years back and LV is consistently one of the worst teams in NFL attendance.   

They don’t care about attendance. They care about windfall and revenue sharing.

[1776]

On 9/27/2024 at 7:45 PM, CMRivdogs said:

What happens to the AAA franchise that's already there? Do they get shipped to Sacramento or someplace or since they're the A's franchise do they catch an Uber to the new park?

From what I heard from a couple of locals when we were there in April, they're not really thrilled with the location. Traffic is already bad enough, parking seems dicey at best. There is also enough other entertainment one would think an A's game would be way down the list.
 

I seriously don’t think the A’s will ever land in Vegas. I’m hoping Fisher gets bored and sells the team. Putting this charade in Sacramento will highlight what a ridiculous joke this is to begin with. 

[holygoat]

The Padres sat Luis Arraez yesterday. He leads Ohtani by about 4-points in the NL batting title race, and for Shohei, it's the Triple Crown on the line. It would be the punkest of punk-a** moves for him to sit for today's season finale.

[chasfh]

14 hours ago, 1776 said:

I seriously don’t think the A’s will ever land in Vegas. I’m hoping Fisher gets bored and sells the team. Putting this charade in Sacramento will highlight what a ridiculous joke this is to begin with. 

I don't think so, either. It's such a bald move to get the windfall, and nothing else. I've wondered whether they will get an MLB-level stadium built in Sacramento, but although it's a #20 market, it's nothing but  government and healthcare economy, which may not be enough to get the billions they need to build there.

I'm starting to think they might figure out a way to get them to San Jose, which is far enough away from San Francisco that the Giants might be talked into allowing that to happen. 🤑

[SoCalTiger]

I don't understand why they couldn't at least stay in Oakland until the Vegas stadium is ready. MLB/Manfred could have assisted in that at the minimum.

[VegasTiger]

On 9/27/2024 at 10:55 AM, monkeytargets39 said:

I don’t know that Vegas is going to support the team either though.  Especially if ownership isn’t going to try and field a competitive team.

They got the Raiders a few years back and LV is consistently one of the worst teams in NFL attendance.  
 

It’s definitely a business, but you’ve gotta be willing to spend some money to make money.  Reading the Twins messageboards the last couple weeks has been eye opening.  Ive seen fans that are so fed up with the Twins standing pat at the deadline and not going after much in free agency that they said they’d be fine if the Pohlads moved the team out of Minneapolis because they don’t want to give another dime to them and maybe another franchise with better owners would eventually move into that market.  

That's not really fair. The Raiders are sold out every game. They just have a small stadium.

[gehringer_2]

20 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

I don't understand why they couldn't at least stay in Oakland until the Vegas stadium is ready. MLB/Manfred could have assisted in that at the minimum.

$$$. The city wants to sell their interest in the stadium, they need the money. Same holds for the A's. Could be the stadium was worth more to both parties as a sale than a playing venue.

[VegasTiger]

I too have some doubts about the A's. Implosion of the hotel on the site is 10-9. As you can imagine, local TV covers it pretty well. I give it a 75/25 chance of happening.

[casimir]

1 hour ago, VegasTiger said:

That's not really fair. The Raiders are sold out every game. They just have a small stadium.

The Raiders should be sold out every game.  There are only 8 or 9 regular season home games per season.   Plus part of that season is a break for colder weather team fans.  Plus there is the whole long weekend in Las Vegas thing that can be made around going to a Raider game for the opposing team’s fans.

[VegasTiger]

2 minutes ago, casimir said:

The Raiders should be sold out every game.  There are only 8 or 9 regular season home games per season.   Plus part of that season is a break for colder weather team fans.  Plus there is the whole long weekend in Las Vegas thing that can be made around going to a Raider game for the opposing team’s fans.

Of course. I wasn't the one that said they had low attendance.

[chasfh]

I thought I saw where the Raiders stadium is 65,000 and they average something like 62,500.

[Motor City Sonics]

So, Skubal gets the Triple Crown?  

 

Some still think he's second in Cy Young.   Clase had a great season, but I don't think it should even be close. 

 

 

  If the A's in Vegas doesn't work out...........Where then? 

Portland?

Salt Lake City?

San Jose? 

Riverside? 

Back to Oakland? 

Traveling Team?  

[SoCalTiger]

10 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

$$$. The city wants to sell their interest in the stadium, they need the money. Same holds for the A's. Could be the stadium was worth more to both parties as a sale than a playing venue.

Sad.

[casimir]

15 hours ago, VegasTiger said:

Of course. I wasn't the one that said they had low attendance.

Just pointing it out in general.

[monkeytargets39]

18 hours ago, VegasTiger said:

That's not really fair. The Raiders are sold out every game. They just have a small stadium.

So if Oakland built a 12,000 seat stadium they could sell it out every day for the As.  Doesn’t mean the attendance figure isn’t low relative to other teams….

Why move the team due to poor attendance and then put them in a stadium that can only hold about 10k more seats than their average attendance was in Oakland?  They’re at capacity and are bottom 5 in attendance, meanwhile another losing franchise—the Commanders—are bringing in 20k more tickets a game and are at 85% capacity.

 

 

[Hongbit]

In this day and age, I’m not sure if there are any markets outside New York and maybe LA that can properly support two teams anymore.

 It’s not hard to get eyeballs on TV screens in populated markets, but it’s hard to develop enough core fans that get in the car and show up regularly to spend their money at the ballpark.   Baseball used to be a bargain but everything has gotten so wildly expensive.