kdog Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 to me that says AJ deliberately holding Skubal for Cleveland, because Tarik could have easily pitched in Tor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Just now, RatkoVarda said: to me that says AJ deliberately holding Skubal for Cleveland, because Tarik could have easily pitched in Tor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, kdog said: Which young players do you need to see post break to give you confidence for 2025? For me it's Meadows, Dingler, and Carpenter. I need Dingler to get MLB at-bats and for Meadows/Carpy to be healthy and productive. Bingo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbomb13 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 hours ago, kdog said: Which young players do you need to see post break to give you confidence for 2025? For me it's Meadows, Dingler, and Carpenter. I need Dingler to get MLB at-bats and for Meadows/Carpy to be healthy and productive. With my expectations dramatically lowered, I’d like to see Tork at least show more than the middling number he’s had in Toledo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 6 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: With my expectations dramatically lowered, I’d like to see Tork at least show more than the middling number he’s had in Toledo. Tork needs an offseason to totally reconstruct his swing. He's not part of any plans for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Just now, kdog said: Tork needs an offseason to totally reconstruct his swing. He's not part of any plans for me. I wonder if I'm the only one that still believes he'll be just fine. He went 1-1 for a reason. I don't think he's a Nick Sinzel.... a .280/.370+/.500+ stat line will do just fine. I could see that still in him. Maybe I'm delusional........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdog Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 6 minutes ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: I wonder if I'm the only one that still believes he'll be just fine. He went 1-1 for a reason. I don't think he's a Nick Sinzel.... a .280/.370+/.500+ stat line will do just fine. I could see that still in him. Maybe I'm delusional........ I have no problem with your vision here. But you can't build a team with that in mind. He can't be counted on as a core player for 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanTigersFan Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Just now, kdog said: I have no problem with your vision here. But you can't build a team with that in mind. He can't be counted on as a core player for 2025. Player A .267/.318/.690 Player B .201/.266/.596 Player C .258/.312/.722 Player D .212/.301/.635 _______________________ A - Julio Rodriguez B- Tork C- Ozzie Albies D- Corbin Carroll Bad years happen. Carroll was an MVP candidate before the season started. It's way too early to give up and say he's not part of the core going forward...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 4 hours ago, chasfh said: Will Leitch has obviously not watched the Tigers this month, apparently not even when we were playing the Dodgers, which, really, I'm not surprised. He appears to be getting his input strictly from topline season data. At least he's aware TORK! was sent down, although he clearly has no idea how badly TORK! has been doing there and that he might be down for the rest of the season. https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-power-rankings-for-week-of-july-14?partnerId=it-20240718-10493459-mlb-1-A&utm_id=it-20240718-10493459-mlb-1-A&lctg=4019258656 23. Tigers (previously: 24) Season high: 7 | Season low: 24 The Tigers have had some excellent pitching atop their rotation this year from Tarik Skubal and Jack Flaherty, but the offense just hasn’t been there – again. There are still young players to have hope for in the future. But one hopes those hitters emerge in time for the pitching to still be there. Reasonable Expectation: Signs of progress from their young bats, including Spencer Torkelson once he returns to the bigs. you mean he's not overacting to a hot 2 weeks like most tigers are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: to me that says AJ deliberately holding Skubal for Cleveland, because Tarik could have easily pitched in Tor they are probably also beginning to look at limiting his innings where convenient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, kdog said: Tork needs an offseason to totally reconstruct his swing. He's not part of any plans for me. is it his swing, or just the need to get more aggressive in the K zone? Or maybe part two requires some work on part one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 https://x.com/evanwoodbery/status/1813984954260598839?s=46 2025 schedule is out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerNation Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, AlaskanTigersFan said: Player A .267/.318/.690 Player B .201/.266/.596 Player C .258/.312/.722 Player D .212/.301/.635 _______________________ A - Julio Rodriguez B- Tork C- Ozzie Albies D- Corbin Carroll Bad years happen. Carroll was an MVP candidate before the season started. It's way too early to give up and say he's not part of the core going forward...... He needs to earn his way back into the core. Until he does that you can't count him as part of it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: is it his swing, or just the need to get more aggressive in the K zone? Or maybe part two requires some work on part one. Or maybe he needs to take a look at his own motivation (part 3). Clean up his head space and that cleans up his swing by being more aggressive in the K zone? I do think it's more than just the K zone, IMO. I absolutely believe he needs an attitude adjustment/ motivation adjustment and that's on him. Whether he is willing to do that or not... we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 PS: And not just the hitting. He needs to be more motivated to improve himself in the field. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger2022 Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 6 hours ago, kdog said: Tork needs an offseason to totally reconstruct his swing. He's not part of any plans for me. When people on the internet decide he isn't in the plans, he might as well just hang em up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 21 hours ago, kdog said: Which young players do you need to see post break to give you confidence for 2025? For me it's Meadows, Dingler, and Carpenter. I need Dingler to get MLB at-bats and for Meadows/Carpy to be healthy and productive. My worthless guess is that when rosters expand from 26 to 28, they'll take a pitcher and a position player. I would think a Kelly trade makes a Dingler promotion all but certain. That's a one for one swap. But if they don't move one of Kelly/Rogers, I'm not sure I see them rostering a 3rd catcher. I'm not sure I consider Carpenter a young player that needs to be seen in terms of performance. He probably still has a little bit of growth yet, but I think he's a MLB player. Meadows definitely needs some MLB time. Well, his bat does. The glove plays, no worries there. If both do return this season, the roster decision could be interesting. Do they dump someone like McKinstry/Urshela, demote one of Villade/Malloy? Probably too early to tell. On the pitching side.... yikes. Jobe is the next fun thing, but does he earn a late season promotion? Or do they just pull up someone already on the 40 (which, meh). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 What a cool kid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 19 Author Share Posted July 19 You don't say. Context: Recovery time varies depending on the strain, with Grade 1 strains typically requiring 2-3 weeks and Grade 2 strains usually taking at least a month. Grade 3 strains often require surgery, however, and can come with considerably longer recovery periods. https://www.mlb.com/glossary/injuries/lat-strain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 4 minutes ago, chasfh said: You don't say. Context: Recovery time varies depending on the strain, with Grade 1 strains typically requiring 2-3 weeks and Grade 2 strains usually taking at least a month. Grade 3 strains often require surgery, however, and can come with considerably longer recovery periods. https://www.mlb.com/glossary/injuries/lat-strain doesnt seem likely we'll see him back up pitching for the Tigers this season.... between him and Tork who's had a worse season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted July 19 Share Posted July 19 2 hours ago, Tigermojo said: What a cool kid. Yes, I listened to that last night. I enjoyed hearing his story and hope his parents can get a chance to see him play in person soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 21 Author Share Posted July 21 When a young pitcher who is trying to establish himself in the majors—a time when someone is most likely to push through owies so they can keep pitching—takes himself out of the game for shoulder pain, that is usually a bad sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 2 hours ago, chasfh said: When a young pitcher who is trying to establish himself in the majors—a time when someone is most likely to push through owies so they can keep pitching—takes himself out of the game for shoulder pain, that is usually a bad sign. This one stinks. His emergence after arriving to the organization has been fun. His quiet demeanor compared to Skubal’s fiery mound presence is a bit of a wrinkle, too. Hopefully it’s nothing too serious and it’s just a short term issue. I think a rotation beginning with those two and Mize is a pretty good start. Montero could work his way in there, too. Get another SP project for Fetter/Nieves to work with. Jobe lurking and Gipson-Long recovering in Toledo. They’ll need to find some younger AAAA arms with possibility yet to stuff in Toledo. As we’ve seen recently, there’s not ever enough pitching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkeytargets39 Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 12 minutes ago, casimir said: This one stinks. His emergence after arriving to the organization has been fun. His quiet demeanor compared to Skubal’s fiery mound presence is a bit of a wrinkle, too. Hopefully it’s nothing too serious and it’s just a short term issue. I think a rotation beginning with those two and Mize is a pretty good start. Montero could work his way in there, too. Get another SP project for Fetter/Nieves to work with. Jobe lurking and Gipson-Long recovering in Toledo. They’ll need to find some younger AAAA arms with possibility yet to stuff in Toledo. As we’ve seen recently, there’s not ever enough pitching. This makes Manning and Maedas disastrous years even more frustrating. With Mize out and now who knows how long Olson will be out, it adds an annoying wrinkle to a Flaherty trade. If we deal him (or Skubal), we almost have to acquire a ML capable starter as well just for the sake of having ANYONE remotely competent to eat those innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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