IdahoBert Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 It’s rainy. The wind is playing tricks with the ball. This game might be decided by something goofy happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 any baseball game that gets past the 10th inning is an immediate watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Stop sucking Boston. Please do something good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 19 strikeouts by the Red Sox they strand runners at second and third we’re going into the 12th inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 KC loses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermojo Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 KC loses 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Royals get 1 in the bottom of the 9th but Doval K's Pham and SF hangs on 2-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 8 minutes ago, IdahoBert said: 19 strikeouts by the Red Sox they strand runners at second and third we’re going into the 12th inning. Both those teams stink. No runs in 2 extra innings so far. Unheard of these days. And the Twins pitcher? His NAME was Blewett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Red Sox announcer saying sardonically that this is a game that apparently neither team wants to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: Royals get 1 in the bottom of the 9th but Doval K's Pham and SF hangs on 2-1 Doval is terrible. Walked the 1st two hitters, got a k, infield hit, a sac fly and then a k to end it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Boston imploding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I guess Minnesota wants to win at least at the top of the 12th. 2-1 Minn bases loaded no outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordstanley Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Red Sox had their chances and blew it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Boston bus officially has lost its wheels. 2 in, bases loaded, still no out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 3-1 Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 4-1. Thanks to Willi Castro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I would be happy to watch this game for the next two hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 I love these compressed camera shots that make it look like it’s raining 12 times as hard as it really is and you think Noah should be building an ark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IdahoBert Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Twins win and Red Sox tie their all-time franchise record of 20 strikeouts in a game. And we are once again one game behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holygoat Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Seattle gained a game on us, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 17 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Posters have identified that there are potential weaknesses in both FG player based and BR team based approaches. I guess you would have to look at their historical success to judge if either has proven to be more accurate over time. What point in time would you pick, though? Because the odds change every day from March through September based on how the season evolves. So by the end they are practically 100% right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, chasfh said: What point in time would you pick, though? Because the odds change every day from March through September based on how the season evolves. So by the end they are practically 100% right i suppose they could remain 50/50 right to the last game couldn't they? Or maybe we aren't talking about the same thing? I don't know what is under the covers in FG's system in terms of how often it updates projections but I assume it must at least look at who the remaining games are against so the model has be updating for that if nothing else. The BR model, being a running average run differential method, updates with every game played. But when I said "more accurate over time" i didn't mean to refer to the convergence toward an end-point but which system tended to give better predictions over multiple seasons. say at some arbitrary date of interest within a season like the ASB or Sept 1 - or even opening day, though that is probably pretty worthless in any system! Edited September 21 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 1 minute ago, gehringer_2 said: i suppose they could remain 50/50 right to the last game couldn't they? Or maybe we aren't talking about the same thing? I don't know what is under the covers in FG's system in terms of how often it updates projections but I assume it must at least look at who the remaining games are against so the model has be updating for that if nothing else. The BR model, being a running average run differential method, updates with every game played. But when I said "more accurate over time" i didn't mean to refer to the convergence toward an end-point but which system tended to give better predictions over multiple seasons. say at some arbitrary date of interest withing a season like the ASB or Sept 1 - or even opening day, though that is probably pretty worthless in any system! The closer we get to the end of the season, the more accurate the projections would tend to be. That's what I mean. There's almost certainly a lot more divergence between say, FanGraphs and Reference, on April 1 than there is on September 27. That's why I'm asking, which same point in time across X number of seasons would you pick to compare them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 (edited) 14 minutes ago, chasfh said: The closer we get to the end of the season, the more accurate the projections would tend to be. That's what I mean. There's almost certainly a lot more divergence between say, FanGraphs and Reference, on April 1 than there is on September 27. That's why I'm asking, which same point in time across X number of seasons would you pick to compare them? Ah... ok - I suppose if BR is using a 100 game running avg then i don't see much point in looking at their result before 100 games when all the data is from the current season. Game 100 was the 3rd week of July this season so i would think it would be fair to compare on Aug 1 and then maybe Sept 1. Seems to be less point to the exercise later than that. And of course neither system predicted anything for the Tigers this year on Sept 1 - which still has a good chance of being correct.🤷♀️ Edited September 21 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted September 22 Author Share Posted September 22 Oh god no, please, not expectations … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.