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so are we now capped by whatever larkin makes?  will they never be able to sign a player above larkin's aav forever?  

sorry conor mcdavid, i know you want to play in detroit but you cant make more than dylan larkin!  he's our captain!

what if danielson breaks out?  do we let him walk if he dares to ask for more than dylan larkin?

 

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2 hours ago, buddha said:

so are we now capped by whatever larkin makes?  will they never be able to sign a player above larkin's aav forever?  

sorry conor mcdavid, i know you want to play in detroit but you cant make more than dylan larkin!  he's our captain!

what if danielson breaks out?  do we let him walk if he dares to ask for more than dylan larkin?

 

It's nonsense. Players know that deals get bigger as time goes on. And really, of any player you can think of, is there one less likely to complain about not being highest paid on the team if it means they win? Not to mention if the team feels the Captain has to be top AAV, they can always give him a bump - I'm sure he wouldn't refuse it!

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I think you might be reading into the less than Larkin stuff too much.  They have just over $8.7 million in space right now, which is Larkin's cap hit.  Seider's contract also buys out RFA years whereas Larkin's was buying out full UFA years so those are theoretically going to bring in a lower cap hit based on how the teams treat RFA vs UFA. 

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23 hours ago, lordstanley said:

It has been a good week. 

It's been a really good offseason so far for Stevie Y and the Wings organization. Getting Raymond for 8 years @ $8.1 million and Seider for 7 years @ $8.55 million are both deals that are right about where they should be. Getting Raymond and Seider both signed to very reasonable deals in the matter a week is fantastic news. Yzerman didn't end up massively overpaying for his own players either like Kenny would have.

Raymond and Mo are two of our foundational pieces that will help us bring Lord Stanley back to Detroit. Having two foundational talents like the locked up and ready to go for the next 5+ years is great. Now there are no more excuses. It's time to step up and compete with the big boy teams in the NHL.

Would it be nice to have one of our foundational pieces be a playmaking center, capable of producing 90+ points a season? Sure, who wouldn't want that. But draft lottery luck didn't fall our way in the right years and Kenny left the cupboard bear when he skipped town. As I said in an earlier post though, because we don't have that game changing center, I think this teams path to a Cup much more reflects the style of a Vegas Golden Knights or St. Louis Blues from a few years back. 

It's been a very productive, solid offseason from the Wings. It's now time for Yzerm and and Lalonde to field a winning product and not only make the playoffs, but starting making a run when we get there.

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So a second cousin of mine/family friend who used to play for the Wings died last week. Larry Trader, who I referred to as Cousin Larry. He was born in my dad's hometown of 1,500 people and our families spent time together growing up. More with a couple of siblings than with Larry himself. Larry, through the other side of his family, was a cousin of ex-Flame Jim Peplinski. I hadn't spoken to Larry in about 30 years but am sharing a stirring story from his hometown paper on his death, as well as his stats card, as an example of a journeyman player who like so many was a big star growing up and into junior, succeeded in making the NHL and bounced around a lot. Still, patched together a pretty interesting career that paid him quite well for a decade and gave him a lot of stories. Even did some minor league coaching afterwards. NHL including two Original Six teams, AHL, Canadian national team that won a bronze in Moscow, European leagues where he was treated well.

A couple of personal stories I have. Larry was called up to the Habs for a cup of coffee one season in the late '80s after Larry Robinson broke his leg. I flew to Montreal from University of Toronto for a game and Larry hooked me up with a ticket to sit beside his wife in with all the other wives. Standing in line to get in at the Forum, I mentioned to a couple of people that my cousin plays for the Habs but you'd know nothing about him. In fact, speaking to the intensity with which the Habs are followed in Montreal, people in those pre-Internet days starting rhyming off a bunch of stats and trivia about Larry, even though he was the fringiest of players. After the game, we went down to the dressing room area (I didn't actually go inside the dressing room) so the wives could kiss their husbands goodbye before the husbands could take a train to Quebec for a game the next night. Then me, Larry's wife and a bunch of other wives all dressed in their fur finery, including Patrick Roy's then-wife, went out for ice cream at a Montreal restaurant. The wives were treated like royalty and I'm sure everyone wondered who was the slobby student with them.

A few years later I'm backpacking in Europe, knew Larry was by now playing in Austria, had understood from his mom that she'd told Larry and his wife I was coming and I was to call when I got to his town. In fact they knew nothing about this when I showed up but they took me in and we hung out for a few days. Austrian league didn't play as many games, so it was mostly watching TV before and after Larry went to practice. But one night we went over to the apartment of Moe Lemay and his wife and played cards. That was a riot. Lemay used to play for the Bruins.

https://www.eganvilleleader.ca/breaking-news/the-extraordinary-life-and-hardships-of-a-small-town-hero/

The extraordinary life and hardships of a small-town hero

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