2024 NBA Playoffs

[gehringer_2]

  On 5/7/2024 at 7:39 AM, KL2 said:

Cade looks good, he's made zero all star teams or done anything meaningful.

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Admittedly hard to evaluate a guy on a terrible team, but league ranks by the numbers:

Assists: 8th

Scoring: 21

FTA: 33

TRB: 101

EFG: 126

TOV: 5

 

[NYLion]

  On 5/7/2024 at 1:41 AM, KL2 said:

It's not attractive at all. 

There is cap space, but nobody worth spending on. There are no building blocks, outside of cade, in players or draft assets. The only hope is to get crazy lucky in draft with the little you do have and land a superstar out of nowhere. Then you can have something to build with. The more likely outcome is a slow rebuild where the pistons buy draft picks for bad contracts and in four years hope to have some talent just in time for Cade to bounce when he's tired of 10 years of losing and when you have 200 loses on your resume. 

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Money and power is very attractive. As long as Gores gives the new president full autonomy, I don't see why it wouldn't be an at least somewhat attractive job for those two reasons mainly.

Also, the Pistons have talent. Cade, Ivey, Ausar and Duren are all very talented but the question is how they fit together.  They'll also have a high draft pick even though it's a bad draft and cap flexibility with no real anchor contracts tying them down so the new guy will have an opportunity to mold the roster as he sees fit, cap flexibility is a real big thing for executives that are looking to make big changes. It's certainly more attractive of a job than the one Weaver took on. 

Edited May 7, 2024 by NYLion

[gehringer_2]

  On 5/7/2024 at 1:47 PM, NYLion said:

They'll also have a high draft pick even though it's a bad draft a

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There will probably still end up being some good players there.

[NYLion]

  On 5/7/2024 at 2:50 PM, gehringer_2 said:

There will probably still end up being some good players there.

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Exactly, high draft picks are always valued in a cap world. I know most don't really care too much about winning the draft lottery this season but I still think there's a significant value difference between the 1st and 5th pick even in a draft where there is no clear #1 based on value alone so a lottery win would still be beneficial or even merely not dropping freaking 4 spots.

[Deleterious]

Look at Minnesota. Ant is the straw that stirs the drink. But Gobert picked 27. McDaniels picked 28. Alexander-Walker picked 17. Reid was undrafted. All play a huge role in the teams success. None were even lottery picks.

[buddha]

  On 5/7/2024 at 6:44 PM, Deleterious said:

Look at Minnesota. Ant is the straw that stirs the drink. But Gobert picked 27. McDaniels picked 28. Alexander-Walker picked 17. Reid was undrafted. All play a huge role in the teams success. None were even lottery picks.

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KAT was also the #1 pick.

[NYLion]

  On 5/7/2024 at 6:44 PM, Deleterious said:

Look at Minnesota. Ant is the straw that stirs the drink. But Gobert picked 27. McDaniels picked 28. Alexander-Walker picked 17. Reid was undrafted. All play a huge role in the teams success. None were even lottery picks.

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While that's true, most stars are taken in the lottery. There's exceptions like Jokic and Giannis but most are taken high in the draft.

[Deleterious]

Murray throws multiple items on the court while the game is being played and only gets a $100K fine.

[casimir]

  On 5/8/2024 at 5:05 AM, Deleterious said:

Murray throws multiple items on the court while the game is being played and only gets a $100K fine.

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$100K more than Beverly has been punished.

[Betrayer]

  On 5/7/2024 at 6:44 PM, Deleterious said:

Look at Minnesota. Ant is the straw that stirs the drink. But Gobert picked 27. McDaniels picked 28. Alexander-Walker picked 17. Reid was undrafted. All play a huge role in the teams success. None were even lottery picks.

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  On 5/7/2024 at 8:29 PM, buddha said:

KAT was also the #1 pick.

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You're both right. You need to hit on your top picks and you also need to find great complimentary players late in the draft. Minnesota has done both. So has OKC and Orlando.

Pistons probably hit with Cade, but they've done little else.

[Betrayer]

  On 5/8/2024 at 5:05 AM, Deleterious said:

Murray throws multiple items on the court while the game is being played and only gets a $100K fine.

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Did Embiid get suspended, or even ejected, for grabbing Robinson's ankles in a far more dangerous play? Nope. NBA is reluctant to suspend stars in the playoffs unless they're heavy repeat offenders (Draymond).

[buddha]

  On 5/8/2024 at 5:41 PM, Betrayer said:

 

You're both right. You need to hit on your top picks and you also need to find great complimentary players late in the draft. Minnesota has done both. So has OKC and Orlando.

Pistons probably hit with Cade, but they've done little else.

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the really hit with ant.  kat is a complimentary guy, but a good one.  and a good regular season player.  he's just the softest player in the league.  someone else has to have the ball in their hands and the balls to play physical.  its obvious ant is that type of guy.  kat is not.

when they tried to build around kat they went nowhere.

[Deleterious]

The Athletic said the police are investigating the Pat Bev incident.

[buddha]

  On 5/8/2024 at 10:04 PM, Deleterious said:

The Athletic said the police are investigating the Pat Bev incident.

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nba gave him 4 games.

will likely be appealed to 2.  oh david stern, how i miss thee.

[Betrayer]

  On 5/9/2024 at 6:25 PM, buddha said:

nba gave him 4 games.

will likely be appealed to 2.  oh david stern, how i miss thee.

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Wow. What a joke. Silver is so soft. 

Edited May 9, 2024 by Betrayer

[Deleterious]

Sort of seeing the youth and inexperience of the Thunder.  Like losing Washington on the baseline on the inbound play.

[Deleterious]

  On 5/10/2024 at 4:01 AM, Deleterious said:

Sort of seeing the youth and inexperience of the Thunder.  Like losing Washington on the baseline on the inbound play.

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And walking away from Hardaway and leaving him with the ball for the wide open three.

[Betrayer]

Say what you will about Mitchell, the criticisms are all fair, but he's been absolutely carrying the Cavs this offseason, even on a bum knee. He's been making some absolute highlight reel shots left and right.

[Deleterious]

  On 5/10/2024 at 5:31 PM, Betrayer said:

Say what you will about Mitchell, the criticisms are all fair, but he's been absolutely carrying the Cavs this offseason, even on a bum knee. He's been making some absolute highlight reel shots left and right.

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I like him a lot more when he is getting people involved like he was last night.

[Deleterious]

Another guy I don't like that was really good last night was Kyrie. 

He saw others had it going so he just backed off and facilitated. He also played really good defense.

[buddha]

every time divencenzo does well it makes me hate troy weaver even more.

joe harris!!!!🤢

[Deleterious]

  On 5/11/2024 at 1:18 AM, buddha said:

every time divencenzo does well it makes me hate troy weaver even more.

joe harris!!!!🤢

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He had 4 less points tonight than Harris had all season.

[Deleterious]

Like Betrayer said, most thought Minnesota would flame out in the playoffs.  Be interesting to see how the respond after this blowout.

[Deleterious]

If you had PJ Washington to be the Mavs leading scorer today.  Well, you're a liar.  

[Deleterious]

Smart play from the rookie.