Tiger337 Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Trump wants to end daylight savings time. That dumb **** can't even get a simple thing like that right. https://www.foxnews.com/health/trumps-daylight-saving-time-plan-sleep-what-must-know 1 Quote
oblong Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 2 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Won’t they blame democrats? Quote
CMRivdogs Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) 28 minutes ago, oblong said: Won’t they blame democrats? They'll try. Republicans are never, ever, at fault. But there were 38 (?) members of the Republican Party voting no. That was more than enough to kill it Edited December 20, 2024 by CMRivdogs Quote
CMRivdogs Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 But, Trump's e-mails..... https://politicalwire.com/2024/12/19/but-his-emails/ Quote Politico: “Trump — who attacked his then-opponent Hillary Clinton over her use of a private email server for official business during his first presidential run — is overseeing a fully privatized transition that communicates from an array of @transition47.com, @trumpvancetransition.com and @djtfp24.com accounts rather than anything ending in .gov, and uses private servers, laptops and cell phones instead of government-issued devices.” Quote
mtutiger Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Watching the WGN 10:00 pm news tonight, while reporting on the bill going down after Musk and Trump's criticism, the anchor (Ray Cortopassi) dryly reports that Elon Musk " who, isn't elected to any office..." That's the good **** there. Quote
mtutiger Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, CMRivdogs said: They'll try. Republicans are never, ever, at fault. But there were 38 (?) members of the Republican Party voting no. That was more than enough to kill it Four points: If a party can't get to a majority with their own membership when they hold a majority in the House, it's on them to find alternate paths (ie working with the other side). This crew has not chosen this path.... so they own this. Full stop. Because government shutdowns tend to hit programs that hit Democratic interests, Republicans frequently try to jam Ds and force them to accept terms that aren't otherwise ideal in order to prevent shutdowns or end shutdowns... the political reality we are living in suggests that assumption by Rs (that Ds will just fold) no longer holds. At least in my lifetime, in every government shutdown (starting with the 1990 one), the party that was blamed was the Republican Party... in large part because (with the exception of 1990, which was more of a Newt Gingrich vanity exercise), they all started with GOP Congresses. At the end of the day, the purse is Congresses job, and their responsibility. Combining Points 1-3 with Trump and Musk intervening in a high profile way on this, it's hard to see history changing should we have a shutdown here.... Edited December 20, 2024 by mtutiger Quote
CMRivdogs Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 6 hours ago, mtutiger said: Four points: If a party can't get to a majority with their own membership when they hold a majority in the House, it's on them to find alternate paths (ie working with the other side). This crew has not chosen this path.... so they own this. Full stop. Because government shutdowns tend to hit programs that hit Democratic interests, Republicans frequently try to jam Ds and force them to accept terms that aren't otherwise ideal in order to prevent shutdowns or end shutdowns... the political reality we are living in suggests that assumption by Rs (that Ds will just fold) no longer holds. At least in my lifetime, in every government shutdown (starting with the 1990 one), the party that was blamed was the Republican Party... in large part because (with the exception of 1990, which was more of a Newt Gingrich vanity exercise), they all started with GOP Congresses. At the end of the day, the purse is Congresses job, and their responsibility. Combining Points 1-3 with Trump and Musk intervening in a high profile way on this, it's hard to see history changing should we have a shutdown here.... All very true. I was being a bit sarcastic (as usual) but we all know what the spin will be. We’ve been there before. The Red Hats expect the Democrats to be the adults in the room Quote
pfife Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) Its definitely the dems fault that the right and the hard right dont agree on a bill Edited December 20, 2024 by pfife Quote
oblong Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 Yeah but it’s not 1995 anymore. You are describing how things were and ought to be but that’s not reality today. There is no left wing media anymore. MSNBC is dead ratings wise. The others are folding to DJT. This will get framed as the party with the most no votes shutting it down. There are different rules for democrats and republicans. It has been that way for 10 years now. 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 As we were saying https://bsky.app/profile/samsteindc.bsky.social/post/3ldql5fzu422d JD Vance last night: It's the Dems want a shut down Trump this morning: We should have a shutdown now on Biden's watch Quote
oblong Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 https://apple.news/AQ7oFluqESIW5aSYg1acoTg Quote
romad1 Posted December 20, 2024 Author Posted December 20, 2024 Elon musk is funding the German neo-Nazis. But here in this synagogue in the Pittsburgh suburbs....but here in this D-Day memorial...but here at the National World War II memorial...but here at the Holocaust museum... 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 3 hours ago, oblong said: Yeah but it’s not 1995 anymore. You are describing how things were and ought to be but that’s not reality today. There is no left wing media anymore. MSNBC is dead ratings wise. The others are folding to DJT. This will get framed as the party with the most no votes shutting it down. There are different rules for democrats and republicans. It has been that way for 10 years now. That isn't the framing I am seeing thus far, for what it's worth. Quote
mtutiger Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) Good example of the issues that come with the "just blame the Democrats" strategy.... especially when Donald Trump continually goes out and does **** like this: 3 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: As we were saying https://bsky.app/profile/samsteindc.bsky.social/post/3ldql5fzu422d JD Vance last night: It's the Dems want a shut down Trump this morning: We should have a shutdown now on Biden's watch There's probably a not-insignificant amount of Americans who probably think Trump *is* the President at this point lol Edited December 20, 2024 by mtutiger Quote
Archie Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 4 hours ago, oblong said: Yeah but it’s not 1995 anymore. You are describing how things were and ought to be but that’s not reality today. There is no left wing media anymore. MSNBC is dead ratings wise. The others are folding to DJT. This will get framed as the party with the most no votes shutting it down. There are different rules for democrats and republicans. It has been that way for 10 years now. That’s not true. Most media are left wing and some are very far left. CBS, ABC and NBC prove it daily. Look at the debates where the moderators were fact checking one side but not the other. ABC just settled out of court for false accusations on Trump. Then you have NBC which is home to Kristen Walker and F Chuck Todd -two of the most biased reporters around siding for the democrats all the time. Some of the cable outlets have realized they have to pay the light bill and are trying to cover Trump more fairly and objectively but are still a wolf in sheep’s clothing. Trump and his administration are a breath of fresh air after four years of complete disaster from the worst administration ever. Government needs to fundamentally change for the safety and prosperity of the American people. Most of you here are puppets to a political party so you are hoping Trump fails. If he fails so does the country. He might be our last chance to fix things. 1 6 Quote
romad1 Posted December 20, 2024 Author Posted December 20, 2024 4 hours ago, romad1 said: Elon musk is funding the German neo-Nazis. But here in this synagogue in the Pittsburgh suburbs....but here in this D-Day memorial...but here at the National World War II memorial...but here at the Holocaust museum... https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/20/media/elon-musk-afd-germany-politics-far-right/index.html Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 1 hour ago, romad1 said: https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/20/media/elon-musk-afd-germany-politics-far-right/index.html Sounds like maybe they might be on to something…. Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted December 20, 2024 Posted December 20, 2024 I am so glad to see German GemPro protecting its people from evil grannies! Quote
romad1 Posted December 20, 2024 Author Posted December 20, 2024 https://bsky.app/profile/andrewjweinstein.com/post/3ldqrzxtgnc2t Andrew Weinstein @andrewjweinstein.com The question we should be asking is how long will Elon Musk allow Donald Trump to stay in power. https://www.politico.eu/article/elon-musk-endorses-germanys-far-right/ Quote
romad1 Posted December 20, 2024 Author Posted December 20, 2024 Bill Kristol @billkristolbulwark.bsky.social I think this should be kind of a big deal: Elon Musk tweeting at 1:03am, “Only the AfD can save Germany.” The AfD is Germany’s neo-Nazi party. Quote
romad1 Posted December 20, 2024 Author Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) ndrew Weinstein @andrewjweinstein.com Are you really the leader when you have to keep telling people that you are? https://bsky.app/profile/andrewjweinstein.com/post/3ldopd3rnzc23 Edited December 20, 2024 by romad1 Quote
mtutiger Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Sounds like maybe they might be on to something…. Do you think they're "on to something" here? German far-right AfD in disarray after Nazi remark Quote A top far-right German politician says he will pull back from campaigning for the upcoming EU elections - although he will remain his party's lead candidate. The latest controversy comes after the Alternative for Germany (AfD)'s Maximilian Krah told journalists that SS members weren’t automatically "criminals". "It depends. You have to assess blame individually. At the end of the war there were almost a million SS. Günter Grass was also in the Waffen SS," he told La Repubblica and the Financial Times, referring to the German novelist who wrote The Tin Drum. "Before I declare someone a criminal, I want to know what he did." The SS, or Schutzstaffel, were a Nazi paramilitary group active in the 1930s and 1940s. Among other crimes against humanity, SS members played a leading role in the Holocaust, the genocide of six million Jews and others during World War Two. Edited December 21, 2024 by mtutiger 1 Quote
romad1 Posted December 21, 2024 Author Posted December 21, 2024 Is the troll pro-terrorist now? 1 Quote
mtutiger Posted December 21, 2024 Posted December 21, 2024 10 hours ago, romad1 said: Is the troll pro-terrorist now? To this end: Are they still "on to something"? Quote
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