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RatkoVarda Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Trump is going to win. Project 2025 only helps him and does not hurt him at all. The combination of liars, fascists, grifters, nihilists, angry, bored people who support him, and a huge number of indifferent Americans who cannot be bothered to stop him, and luke warm support for Biden from the left because he has not given them enough wins, will prove to be a winning combination for MAGA. Biden should be 8 points ahead, and the fact that he is not tells you what is coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ronz Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Exactly this! And win by a landslide too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I'm pretty sure he will win. I really think Biden should have stepped aside for this election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 11 minutes ago, ben9753 said: I really think Biden should have stepped aside for this election. serious question: for who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 11 minutes ago, RatkoVarda said: serious question: for who? I don't know, thats not my concern. If they are so lost they can't come up with an alternative to a historically unpopular and old president, they deserve to loose. The bar for a functional national party in this country is so pathetically low, and both parties continue to lower it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 On 5/12/2024 at 1:43 PM, chasfh said: They did get an education—in the militarization of America society over the past two decades, and the normalization of our kids going overseas to become warriors in distant lands populated by people not like them who don’t want them there, and then they are praised when they get back and feted at places like every single ballgame you go to. No wonder Americans thinks of soldiers as benevolent gods on Earth appointed to protect them by raining death and hellfire on people they hate. That’s what they want here, because that’s what they’ve been trained to want here. We should honor soldiers for their courage and sacrifice as much as we can. They deserve our praise and admiration. It's the people who tell them what to do who can be a problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, The Ronz said: Exactly this! And win by a landslide too. I don't get your insistence on a landslide. There hasn't been a landslide in this country in a long time and there likely won't be in the near future. It will be a close election again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, The Ronz said: Exactly this! And win by a landslide too. MQGA delusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 On 5/12/2024 at 1:43 PM, chasfh said: They did get an education—in the militarization of America society over the past two decades, and the normalization of our kids going overseas to become warriors in distant lands populated by people not like them who don’t want them there, and then they are praised when they get back and feted at places like every single ballgame you go to. No wonder Americans thinks of soldiers as benevolent gods on Earth appointed to protect them by raining death and hellfire on people they hate. That’s what they want here, because that’s what they’ve been trained to want here. Pretty much the most disrepectful thing I have ever seen you post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 15 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Pretty much the most disrepectful thing I have ever seen you post. Well, the Trump police state will come and get me for this when it's time, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 19 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Pretty much the most disrespectful thing I have ever seen you post. I didn't like it either. To criticize politicians for abusing the military is one thing. Disrespecting soldiers is another thing entirely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: I didn't like it either. To criticize politicians for abusing the military is one thing. Disrespecting soldiers is another thing entirely. Maybe you didn't want an idea of why so many Americans want autocratic military rule after all, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 12 minutes ago, chasfh said: Well, the Trump police state will come and get me for this when it's time, I guess. I am not talking about Trump. Please do not drag service members through the mud. You have no clue what you are talking about, like ZERO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 6 minutes ago, chasfh said: Maybe you didn't want an idea of why so many Americans want autocratic military rule after all, then. You could express try expressing that idea without disrespecting soldiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I am not talking about Trump. Please do not drag service members through the mud. You have no clue what you are talking about, like ZERO. I've been living in this country, especially since 2001, so I think I do have more than a clue. But I'll stop here if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 7 minutes ago, chasfh said: I've been living in this country, especially since 2001, so I think I do have more than a clue. But I'll stop here if you want. I mean, you clearly are always the smartest guy in the room ( I can only imagine what that feels like). Enjoy your free speech! You did not earn it but the working class poor gave it to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I mean, you clearly are always the smartest guy in the room ( I can only imagine what that feels like). Enjoy your free speech! You did not earn it but the working class poor gave it to you. And this after I offered to stop here. Serves me right, I guess. *sigh* OK, here goes: The working class poor did not give me my free speech. And neither did you. And I don't feel guilty for exercising it. But hey, you and your brethren are welcome for the hundreds of thousands of my tax dollars that funded your experience. Now can we stop? Or do we need to keep going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 7 minutes ago, chasfh said: And this after I offered to stop here. Serves me right, I guess. *sigh* OK, here goes: The working class poor did not give me my free speech. And neither did you. And I don't feel guilty for exercising it. But hey, you and your brethren are welcome for the hundreds of thousands of my tax dollars that funded your experience. Now can we stop? Or do we need to keep going? Nope your ignorance and arrogance are on full display. Edited May 14 by Tigeraholic1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 11 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Nope your ignorance and arrogance are on full display. One thing I am not ignorant of is the United States Constitution and its Bill of Rights, which makes no mention of my freedom of religion, speech, press, assembly, petition, due process of law, trial by jury—as well as freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, excessive bail, and cruel and unusual punishment—as being gifts to me courtesy of the military. In fact, the only place anything military is mentioned in the Bill of Rights is the part that says they can't force me to provide them lodging in my house. So don't tell me I don't earn my freedoms, because I'm paying big money for them. Not everybody has to pick up a weapon and stand a post to do their part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tigeraholic1 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 14 hours ago, chasfh said: So don't tell me I don't earn my freedoms, because I'm paying big money for them. Not everybody has to pick up a weapon and stand a post to do their part. Keep on freedom fighting! When you see that homeless vet in big shoulders make sure you raise your nose a little higher than usual mmm k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 2 hours ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Keep on freedom fighting! When you see that homeless vet in big shoulders make sure you raise your nose a little higher than usual mmm k? NOW who’s ignorant and arrogant? But hey, at least you’re getting your money’s worth here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 17 hours ago, romad1 said: At least it should be shocking and outrageous, and it is to many people. But not to enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 I like how we have free speech in the US because the US military invaded Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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