Mr.TaterSalad Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM Posted yesterday at 12:46 AM What's the point in believing in God if he can't even guarantee your Catholic School a win and a Natty? I think Ohio State wins tonight. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted yesterday at 12:49 AM Posted yesterday at 12:49 AM Like Lou Holtz said, Ryan Day is a weak, whiny, bitch and Ohio State ain't tough. Go Irish I guess. Quote
Deleterious Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago I'm not picky. I will make fun of whichever fanbase loses. 1 Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Damn Riley Leonard and ND went on a 9 minute, 75 yard opening drive and just shoved it down Ohio State's throat to score. Great opening drive. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago I’m looking forward to crowning either Northern Illinois or the University of Michigan the 2024 National Champion tonight. Quote
buddha Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago ohio state should blow the doors off notre dame. despite the coaching malpractice that was the michigan game, ohio state is the best team in college football. money well spent. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago (edited) **** you ESPN. What the **** was that. I'm finding something else to watch after that ****ing ****. A sport whose players are over 50% black and they feature a guy who hates black people on TV like that. That's the last I'll be watching of ESPN. Edited 22 hours ago by Mr.TaterSalad Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 12 hours ago, buddha said: money well spent. Oh please, its the NIL era, everyone spends a bunch of money now, including your morally superior Wolverines. Michigan brings in more transfers than OSU. Not to mention the $12 million to a high school QB. Obviously OSU spent money on their roster, but it has been widely reported Oregon and Texas spent just as much, and its believed Oregon spent more. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 9 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: Oh please, its the NIL era, everyone spends a bunch of money now, including your morally superior Wolverines. Michigan brings in more transfers than OSU. Not to mention the $12 million to a high school QB. Obviously OSU spent money on their roster, but it has been widely reported Oregon and Texas spent just as much, and its believed Oregon spent more. M has been a year behind - I don't think M spent what OSU spent last year, but that was more for lack of being organized to do it. With the deal to Underwood they have certainly caught up. If the new 'deal' goes into place I would expect NIL to start falling off. In fact the NCAA is supposedly going to start enforcing some kind of 'value returned' standard for NIL, but we'll see is they do any better controlling that then they ever did with all the other money that oozed though Div I FB. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 31 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: M has been a year behind - I don't think M spent what OSU spent last year, but that was more for lack of being organized to do it. With the deal to Underwood they have certainly caught up. If the new 'deal' goes into place I would expect NIL to start falling off. In fact the NCAA is supposedly going to start enforcing some kind of 'value returned' standard for NIL, but we'll see is they do any better controlling that then they ever did with all the other money that oozed though Div I FB. The majority of OSU's "crazy!!! spending" was for the retention of their own players. They brought in Caleb Downs and Judkins, but other than that it was a TE from a MAC school, the older Styles brother that barely played, and a freshman QB that left Bama after Saban retired and OSU finished 2nd in his recruitment. You cannot tell me Michigan didn't spend a bunch to retain all of their 40 some upperclassmen for the 2024 run. Give me a break. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 24 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: The majority of OSU's "crazy!!! spending" was for the retention of their own players. They brought in Caleb Downs and Judkins, but other than that it was a TE from a MAC school, the older Styles brother that barely played, and a freshman QB that left Bama after Saban retired and OSU finished 2nd in his recruitment. You cannot tell me Michigan didn't spend a bunch to retain all of their 40 some upperclassmen for the 2024 run. Give me a break. Which season do you mean by '24, I assume you mean fall 23? I'd hardly call the effort for fall 24 a "run" . No question the had a lot of funding for guys like Corum the year before. But this last season they were caught with their pants down in almost every way. I'm not blaming that on OSU. My impression was that this last season had a big wait and see component regarding where things with conferences , possible sanctions, player payments and the portal were going to go. Between that and an untested coaching staff and a heavily depleted offense they (at the admin levels) knew more money was going to be too little to late anyway - otherwise they probably would have spent more. Edited 9 hours ago by gehringer_2 Quote
Hongbit Posted 9 hours ago Author Posted 9 hours ago Michigan better have the money as they’ve chosen the more expensive route. They are paying a Freshman QB that they believe can develop rather than renting a proven guy for a year as both teams in the natty did this season. It may very well work out better for UM as the upside on Underwood is much higher than either of those two but so are the risks and costs. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Which season do you mean by '24, I assume you mean fall 23? I'd hardly call the effort for fall 24 a "run" . No question the had a lot of funding for guys like Corum the year before. But this last season they were caught with their pants down in almost every way. I'm not blaming that on OSU. My impression was that this last season had a big wait and see component regarding where things with conferences , possible sanctions, player payments and the portal were going to go. Between that and an untested coaching staff and a heavily depleted offense they (at the admin levels) knew more money was going to be too little to late anyway - otherwise they probably would have spent more. Yeah, I meant the run to the 2024 title last year. Michigan would have been damned good this year if they didn't inexplicably believe Alex Orji and Davis Warren were good enough. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 5 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: Yeah, I meant the run to the 2024 title last year. Michigan would have been damned good this year if they didn't inexplicably believe Alex Orji and Davis Warren were good enough. It looked that way at the end, but there is a little bit of a retcon to that. They were terrible on O and D coming out of the gate. It took the D a while to find itself under Martindale. My uninformed opinion is that there still would have been enough early losses to put them out of it even if the O had been passable. Quote
buddha Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 hours ago, RedTeamGo! said: Oh please, its the NIL era, everyone spends a bunch of money now, including your morally superior Wolverines. Michigan brings in more transfers than OSU. Not to mention the $12 million to a high school QB. Obviously OSU spent money on their roster, but it has been widely reported Oregon and Texas spent just as much, and its believed Oregon spent more. lol. i dont know why you guys have such a massive chip on your shoulder. you were the best team in college football this year. like you said, everyone spent money. relax and enjoy your 2 loss national championship. take a little ribbing. 😉 Quote
buddha Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 4 hours ago, RedTeamGo! said: Yeah, I meant the run to the 2024 title last year. Michigan would have been damned good this year if they didn't inexplicably believe Alex Orji and Davis Warren were good enough. it would have taken a LOT more for michigan to be any good this year. their entire offense sucked, not just the qb. i'm not sure it will be massively better next year, and im sure the defense will be worse. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, buddha said: lol. i dont know why you guys have such a massive chip on your shoulder. you were the best team in college football this year. like you said, everyone spent money. relax and enjoy your 2 loss national championship. take a little ribbing. 😉 Oh trust me, I am definitely enjoying it, but I also like to talk about college sports, lol. I don't think the OSU fanbase has much of a chip on their shoulder. Especially after the last couple of years. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, buddha said: it would have taken a LOT more for michigan to be any good this year. their entire offense sucked, not just the qb. i'm not sure it will be massively better next year, and im sure the defense will be worse. The defense will be worse, but still good IMHO. It is hard to have a good offense when your QB is so bad, though. A decent QB makes everyone else better, especially RBs. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 35 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: The defense will be worse, but still good IMHO. It is hard to have a good offense when your QB is so bad, though. A decent QB makes everyone else better, especially RBs. way-Way back in the three yards and cloud of dust days under Bo, I was always persuaded that the one reason UM would fail so badly against West Coast teams in bowl games was because they didn't have a good passing offense to practice against. Hard to be prepared for what you just don't get to see. That M's D came to far from the beginning of this season without being able to practice against a good QB speaks well for Martindale. Quote
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