Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 21 Posted January 21 What's the point in believing in God if he can't even guarantee your Catholic School a win and a Natty? I think Ohio State wins tonight. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Like Lou Holtz said, Ryan Day is a weak, whiny, bitch and Ohio State ain't tough. Go Irish I guess. Quote
Deleterious Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I'm not picky. I will make fun of whichever fanbase loses. 1 Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Damn Riley Leonard and ND went on a 9 minute, 75 yard opening drive and just shoved it down Ohio State's throat to score. Great opening drive. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 21 Posted January 21 I’m looking forward to crowning either Northern Illinois or the University of Michigan the 2024 National Champion tonight. Quote
buddha Posted January 21 Posted January 21 ohio state should blow the doors off notre dame. despite the coaching malpractice that was the michigan game, ohio state is the best team in college football. money well spent. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) **** you ESPN. What the **** was that. I'm finding something else to watch after that ****ing ****. A sport whose players are over 50% black and they feature a guy who hates black people on TV like that. That's the last I'll be watching of ESPN. Edited January 21 by Mr.TaterSalad Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted January 21 Posted January 21 12 hours ago, buddha said: money well spent. Oh please, its the NIL era, everyone spends a bunch of money now, including your morally superior Wolverines. Michigan brings in more transfers than OSU. Not to mention the $12 million to a high school QB. Obviously OSU spent money on their roster, but it has been widely reported Oregon and Texas spent just as much, and its believed Oregon spent more. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 9 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: Oh please, its the NIL era, everyone spends a bunch of money now, including your morally superior Wolverines. Michigan brings in more transfers than OSU. Not to mention the $12 million to a high school QB. Obviously OSU spent money on their roster, but it has been widely reported Oregon and Texas spent just as much, and its believed Oregon spent more. M has been a year behind - I don't think M spent what OSU spent last year, but that was more for lack of being organized to do it. With the deal to Underwood they have certainly caught up. If the new 'deal' goes into place I would expect NIL to start falling off. In fact the NCAA is supposedly going to start enforcing some kind of 'value returned' standard for NIL, but we'll see is they do any better controlling that then they ever did with all the other money that oozed though Div I FB. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted January 21 Posted January 21 31 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: M has been a year behind - I don't think M spent what OSU spent last year, but that was more for lack of being organized to do it. With the deal to Underwood they have certainly caught up. If the new 'deal' goes into place I would expect NIL to start falling off. In fact the NCAA is supposedly going to start enforcing some kind of 'value returned' standard for NIL, but we'll see is they do any better controlling that then they ever did with all the other money that oozed though Div I FB. The majority of OSU's "crazy!!! spending" was for the retention of their own players. They brought in Caleb Downs and Judkins, but other than that it was a TE from a MAC school, the older Styles brother that barely played, and a freshman QB that left Bama after Saban retired and OSU finished 2nd in his recruitment. You cannot tell me Michigan didn't spend a bunch to retain all of their 40 some upperclassmen for the 2024 run. Give me a break. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 (edited) 24 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: The majority of OSU's "crazy!!! spending" was for the retention of their own players. They brought in Caleb Downs and Judkins, but other than that it was a TE from a MAC school, the older Styles brother that barely played, and a freshman QB that left Bama after Saban retired and OSU finished 2nd in his recruitment. You cannot tell me Michigan didn't spend a bunch to retain all of their 40 some upperclassmen for the 2024 run. Give me a break. Which season do you mean by '24, I assume you mean fall 23? I'd hardly call the effort for fall 24 a "run" . No question the had a lot of funding for guys like Corum the year before. But this last season they were caught with their pants down in almost every way. I'm not blaming that on OSU. My impression was that this last season had a big wait and see component regarding where things with conferences , possible sanctions, player payments and the portal were going to go. Between that and an untested coaching staff and a heavily depleted offense they (at the admin levels) knew more money was going to be too little to late anyway - otherwise they probably would have spent more. Edited January 21 by gehringer_2 Quote
Hongbit Posted January 21 Author Posted January 21 Michigan better have the money as they’ve chosen the more expensive route. They are paying a Freshman QB that they believe can develop rather than renting a proven guy for a year as both teams in the natty did this season. It may very well work out better for UM as the upside on Underwood is much higher than either of those two but so are the risks and costs. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted January 21 Posted January 21 8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Which season do you mean by '24, I assume you mean fall 23? I'd hardly call the effort for fall 24 a "run" . No question the had a lot of funding for guys like Corum the year before. But this last season they were caught with their pants down in almost every way. I'm not blaming that on OSU. My impression was that this last season had a big wait and see component regarding where things with conferences , possible sanctions, player payments and the portal were going to go. Between that and an untested coaching staff and a heavily depleted offense they (at the admin levels) knew more money was going to be too little to late anyway - otherwise they probably would have spent more. Yeah, I meant the run to the 2024 title last year. Michigan would have been damned good this year if they didn't inexplicably believe Alex Orji and Davis Warren were good enough. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: Yeah, I meant the run to the 2024 title last year. Michigan would have been damned good this year if they didn't inexplicably believe Alex Orji and Davis Warren were good enough. It looked that way at the end, but there is a little bit of a retcon to that. They were terrible on O and D coming out of the gate. It took the D a while to find itself under Martindale. My uninformed opinion is that there still would have been enough early losses to put them out of it even if the O had been passable. Quote
buddha Posted January 21 Posted January 21 6 hours ago, RedTeamGo! said: Oh please, its the NIL era, everyone spends a bunch of money now, including your morally superior Wolverines. Michigan brings in more transfers than OSU. Not to mention the $12 million to a high school QB. Obviously OSU spent money on their roster, but it has been widely reported Oregon and Texas spent just as much, and its believed Oregon spent more. lol. i dont know why you guys have such a massive chip on your shoulder. you were the best team in college football this year. like you said, everyone spent money. relax and enjoy your 2 loss national championship. take a little ribbing. 😉 Quote
buddha Posted January 21 Posted January 21 4 hours ago, RedTeamGo! said: Yeah, I meant the run to the 2024 title last year. Michigan would have been damned good this year if they didn't inexplicably believe Alex Orji and Davis Warren were good enough. it would have taken a LOT more for michigan to be any good this year. their entire offense sucked, not just the qb. i'm not sure it will be massively better next year, and im sure the defense will be worse. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, buddha said: lol. i dont know why you guys have such a massive chip on your shoulder. you were the best team in college football this year. like you said, everyone spent money. relax and enjoy your 2 loss national championship. take a little ribbing. 😉 Oh trust me, I am definitely enjoying it, but I also like to talk about college sports, lol. I don't think the OSU fanbase has much of a chip on their shoulder. Especially after the last couple of years. Quote
RedTeamGo! Posted January 21 Posted January 21 1 hour ago, buddha said: it would have taken a LOT more for michigan to be any good this year. their entire offense sucked, not just the qb. i'm not sure it will be massively better next year, and im sure the defense will be worse. The defense will be worse, but still good IMHO. It is hard to have a good offense when your QB is so bad, though. A decent QB makes everyone else better, especially RBs. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 21 Posted January 21 35 minutes ago, RedTeamGo! said: The defense will be worse, but still good IMHO. It is hard to have a good offense when your QB is so bad, though. A decent QB makes everyone else better, especially RBs. way-Way back in the three yards and cloud of dust days under Bo, I was always persuaded that the one reason UM would fail so badly against West Coast teams in bowl games was because they didn't have a good passing offense to practice against. Hard to be prepared for what you just don't get to see. That M's D came to far from the beginning of this season without being able to practice against a good QB speaks well for Martindale. Quote
lordstanley Posted January 22 Posted January 22 Ohio St. beat the #2,#3, #4 and #9 teams of the final AP ranking in the playoff and beat the #5 and #10 teams in the regular season. Rarely has there been a national champion so clearly better than the rest. Quote
buddha Posted January 22 Posted January 22 12 minutes ago, lordstanley said: Ohio St. beat the #2,#3, #4 and #9 teams of the final AP ranking in the playoff and beat the #5 and #10 teams in the regular season. Rarely has there been a national champion so clearly better than the rest. better than every team but one... honestly, its better that osu won than nd. better for the big ten, better for the rivalry with michigan, and better because notre dame is always always always overrated. just like they were this year. marcus freeman SHOULD go to the nfl if someone is dumb enough to offer him a big contract (paging the saints on line one), because nd will go back to being a 2-3 loss team next year. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 23 Posted January 23 Objectively, Ohio State was the best team in the country. Objectively, Ohio State is the least deserving National Champion since at least 1990 Colorado, and maybe dating back to 1960 Minnesota. Theoretically, if a 10-1 team ranked in the top five enters rivalry week eliminated from contention from the conference championship, should they rest starters? The new playoff format clearly says yes. To be clear, I'm not complaining. Just stating implications - intended or otherwise - of the new format. They ultimately crowned the most talented team, and if that was the goal, then mission accomplished. Quote
Shades of Deivi Cruz Posted January 24 Posted January 24 The playoff format definitely needs a little tweaking. Even if you wanted to continue giving conference champs a bye, you could re-seed after the first round games, so you don't have a Boise or ASU as 3/4. Also, it seemed very odd to me that the teams that earned byes then missed out on having a home playoff game. Not exactly sure how you fix that part, but an oddity nonetheless. I attended the championship game with my son (who is an OSU student). The crowd, the venue, the game, it was all great. Besides being really cold (in the low 20s and windy), my only complaint is that a lot of the area bars/restaurants were closed for private events. I can't imagine how much it had to cost for places like that to close and miss out on all those customers. It made the places that were open really crowded, especially since no one was tailgating outside due to the weather. The game was so great though. We definitely got a bit nervous when it was just a one score game and it looked like we would have to punt it back to ND with ample time on the clock. Then this happens! 2 Quote
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