2024 NCAA Football Thread

[Deleterious]

I hope the Big Ten was paying attention to last night's game. Stop putting your biggest regular season game of the year on at noon.

[buddha]

3 hours ago, Deleterious said:

I hope the Big Ten was paying attention to last night's game. Stop putting your biggest regular season game of the year on at noon.

fox will be paying attention for sure.

also, the big ten does a lot better in the ratings when michigan and ohio state are both good.

two years ago um-osu did 19 million, this year only 12.5.  imagine if they put it on in prime time?

[casimir]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

two years ago um-osu did 19 million, this year only 12.5.  imagine if they put it on in prime time?

That’s a lot of pregame drinking.

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

 

[MichiganCardinal]

Michigan finally read the operator’s manual for their money cannon and now they can’t stop firing it.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

On 12/24/2024 at 9:24 PM, MichiganCardinal said:

Michigan finally read the operator’s manual for their money cannon and now they can’t stop firing it.

Harbaugh was uniquely able to make NIL work for a season where he essentially used it to incentivize his good players to stay and grow within the system. I don't know that doing things that way was ever going to be a sustainable long term model for doing business. We had to adopt to the free agency model of NIL and paying players like they were professional free agents. We have and so far on the recruiting end, it's really worked out. Now we'll see if Moore and company can coach these players up and develop them into something special or will he be Jimbo Fisher 2.0.

[Deleterious]

 

[Deleterious]

Everyone could take some pointers from Kellogg's marketing department.

 

[Deleterious]

Were the announcers as bad as people are saying in the BYU-Colorado game?  Seeing a lot of people who are not BYU fans say the announcers wouldn't shut up about Colorado, even though BYU was up 20.

 

[Dan Gilmore]

Yes, they were.

[Deleterious]

 

[buddha]

that actually makes sense.  so it probably wont happen.

[MichiganCardinal]

If it requires unanimity I don’t see any incentive for anyone outside the Big Ten, SEC, and Notre Dame to want this.

How many years would that change actually benefit an ACC, Big 12, or any other conference champion, as opposed to the current setup?

[buddha]

29 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

If it requires unanimity I don’t see any incentive for anyone outside the Big Ten, SEC, and Notre Dame to want this.

How many years would that change actually benefit an ACC, Big 12, or any other conference champion, as opposed to the current setup?

the big ten and sec have the leverage of "we will leave and form our own league."

i dont think they are at the point of USING that type of leverage, but that is the ultimate leverage.

[MichiganCardinal]

3 hours ago, buddha said:

the big ten and sec have the leverage of "we will leave and form our own league."

i dont think they are at the point of USING that type of leverage, but that is the ultimate leverage.

I don't think a breath of that will be spoken until it has been decided and done. They won't want to give the NCAA or other conferences a second of preparation to their legal arguments.

[buddha]

14 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I don't think a breath of that will be spoken until it has been decided and done. They won't want to give the NCAA or other conferences a second of preparation to their legal arguments.

what's the legal argument against it if they want to leave the ncaa and form their own entity?

monopoly?  how?  all ghe other leagues can still play.

just no one will watch.

[MichiganCardinal]

10 minutes ago, buddha said:

what's the legal argument against it if they want to leave the ncaa and form their own entity?

monopoly?  how?  all ghe other leagues can still play.

just no one will watch.

There is too much money at stake for them to not throw everything they can at it. Not saying it would be successful. But when USC and UCLA joined the Big Ten, it shocked everyone and it happened overnight. Not even the UC Regents knew it was coming.

I just think this kind of seismic shift would be the same. There won't be whispers, it'll be a press release and probably immediate.

[buddha]

1 minute ago, MichiganCardinal said:

There is too much money at stake for them to not throw everything they can at it. Not saying it would be successful. But when USC and UCLA joined the Big Ten, it shocked everyone and it happened overnight. Not even the UC Regents knew it was coming.

I just think this kind of seismic shift would be the same. There won't be whispers, it'll be a press release and probably immediate.

they can throw the lawyers at it to delay it, but i think its inevitable.  and the more the boise state's, smu's, and arizona state's make the playoff and the alabama's and south carolina's dont, it just gives the sec/big ten more inventive to leave.

they ALONE drive the tv contracts and the money.  all the big tv games are sec/big ten with the occasional notre dame or a hyped story like deion at colorado.  that's it.  nobody pays to watch byu or uconn unless they are playing michigan or alabama.

its tough foe those schools, but its a money game now.  

the real question is whether northwestern or purdue or vanderbilt or mississippi state survive the reckoning that's coming.  rutgers?  why?  

ohio state, penn state, michigan, michigan state, nebraska, wisconsin, iowa, notre dame, indiana, minnesota, usc, ucla, oregon, washington, maryland, virginia, boston college, syracuse

alabama, georgia, florida, florida state, miami, north carolina, south carolina, tennessee, texas, oklahoma, auburn, ole miss, clemson, miami, texas a & m, kentucky, arkansas, missouri

18 team conferences divided into 4 or 5 divisions.  winner plays the "super bowl"!

[Deleterious]

I say we give relegation its first test in major American sports.  

[buddha]

10 minutes ago, Deleterious said:

I say we give relegation its first test in major American sports.  

i agree!

but it wont happen.  schools arent going to give up that sweet sweet guaranteed money and tv networks dont pay for arizona indiana just because one of them had a fluke season the year before.

of the top 25 most watched ncaa games this year only ONE didnt involve at least one big ten or sec team: the big 12 championship game, which averaged slightly more viewers than michigan-usc.  the other 24 games involved sec or big ten schools and one notre dame game (against sec texas a & m).

the networks dont want clemson-smu, they want michigan-notre dame.  and they're paying billions to get it.

and they will eventually get it.

[MichiganCardinal]

Just now, buddha said:

they can throw the lawyers at it to delay it, but i think its inevitable.  and the more the boise state's, smu's, and arizona state's make the playoff and the alabama's and south carolina's dont, it just gives the sec/big ten more inventive to leave.

they ALONE drive the tv contracts and the money.  all the big tv games are sec/big ten with the occasional notre dame or a hyped story like deion at colorado.  that's it.  nobody pays to watch byu or uconn unless they are playing michigan or alabama.

its tough foe those schools, but its a money game now.  

the real question is whether northwestern or purdue or vanderbilt or mississippi state survive the reckoning that's coming.  rutgers?  why?  

ohio state, penn state, michigan, michigan state, nebraska, wisconsin, iowa, notre dame, indiana, minnesota, usc, ucla, oregon, washington, maryland, virginia, boston college, syracuse

alabama, georgia, florida, florida state, miami, north carolina, south carolina, tennessee, texas, oklahoma, auburn, ole miss, clemson, miami, texas a & m, kentucky, arkansas, missouri

18 team conferences divided into 4 or 5 divisions.  winner plays the "super bowl"!

I don't think they'll even delay it really. When the big dogs say goodbye, they're leaving and not looking back, even if those they are leaving throw a temper tantrum..

At most, they'll get some relatively small amount of money to make them go away.

I would love to see relegation. It would be awesome. But the Vanderbilts, Northwesterns, Kentuckys, and Illinois of the world have enough friends to prevent it. Rutgers doesn't, they could be relegated and no one would care.

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, buddha said:

what's the legal argument against it

the schools may have signed into who knows what kind of binding covenants when they joined their conferences or NCAA so I imagine there will be some kind of legal arguments, but in the end that all goes away once the leaving teams pay a suitable ransom for their freedom.

[buddha]

penn state is the biggest waste of talent in college football.

3rd and 21 and they run a draw....AND GET IT!  

they are god awful.  what a waste.