Bears at Lions. a turkey matchup for turkey day

[mtutiger]

7 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

Yes, it will. It will align the org chart.   The current setup is only going to get worse. 

Why do you assume there is daylight between Holmes and Campbell?

Honest question, I don't recall seeing any reporting to the effect 

[TP_Fan]

Just now, mtutiger said:

Why do you assume there is daylight between Holmes and Campbell?

Honest question, I don't recall seeing any reporting to the effect 

You already have the power struggle between Lynn and Campbell.  Campbell is going to want final say.   Safe to assume that Holmes isn’t going to support this ultra conservative offense.   Campbell is who he is. He came in saying how much he loves conservative football.  When you hear Holmes talk the philosophy doesn’t seem to align. 

[TP_Fan]

These play calls hurt to watch.  Any pass behind the line of scrimmage isn’t going to work. It will never work.  

[TP_Fan]

Touchdown hockenson.  Odd what happens when you throw it past the line of scrimmage.  

[TP_Fan]

Lol Campbell can’t even get the team to kick an extra point correctly.  12 men on the field for the xp.  The ineptitude even shows up when things go well. 

[TP_Fan]

Hockenson to the locker room.  Hurt himself catching the football.  

[RandyMarsh]

1 minute ago, TP_Fan said:

Lol Campbell can’t even get the team to kick an extra point correctly.  12 men on the field for the xp.  The ineptitude even shows up when things go well. 

That is not Campbell's responsiblity, that's what you have Special Team coaches for, that is their job. Not everything that happens on the field is on the Head Coaches shoulders like people seem to think.  

[Mr.TaterSalad]

WOW, terrible penalty to take, even if we made the FG. Great touchdown by Hockenson.

[TP_Fan]

2 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

That is not Campbell's responsiblity, that's what you have Special Team coaches for, that is their job. Not everything that happens on the field is on the Head Coaches shoulders like people seem to think.  

It absolutely does.  

[gehringer_2]

6 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

Why do you assume there is daylight between Holmes and Campbell?

Honest question, I don't recall seeing any reporting to the effect 

Other than whatever is going on with Lynn they seem to be a calm ship. I suppose whether tension between a coach and GM develops or continues has a lot to do with how ownership deals with it. If you have ownership that allows the coach to have their ear to complain about the GM (or vice versa) vs one that's strong about telling folks to stay in their lanes it would likely make a difference.

Obviously when there is a lot of losing there is always going to be incentive for a GM to blame it on the coach and the coach to blame it on his personnel (and thus the GM). It will be one measure of this ownership if they keep everyone pulling in the same direction through such a terrible season.

[RandyMarsh]

2 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

It absolutely does.  

No it actually doesn't. The Special Team coach specifically is on the sideline counting the players and making sure the right ones are sent out.  Sure Campbell could've chose to use a timeout when he saw the one player trying to get off the field but other than that it is not his fault that 12 guys were sent out there. 

[Hongbit]

Lions head coach really is one of the best jobs in pro sports.  The pay is fantastic with no pressure to perform and a million built in excuses when you fail.  The boss is nice and doesn’t demand results.    The only pressure will come from media and fans but no coach ever cares what either of those groups thinks.  

[TP_Fan]

Back to back penalties after the start to a promising drive.  2nd and 7 does to 2nd and 22.  Campbell football.  Zero discipline. No one is prepared.

make that 3 straight penalties.  2nd and 32.  Decker again, what a fucking bum he is.  Great coaching. 

[TP_Fan]

3rd and 32. Didn’t try again. Completely gave up.  Joke. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

2nd and 22 and we call a draw play. That's awful play calling and a penalty to boot.

[TP_Fan]

Money time and the same issues are there. Coaches are not putting the players in a position to win. 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

False start, holding penalty, holding penalty, running play on 2nd and 22, overthrow by Goff, punt. This team has no ability to build on a lead and put anyone away because of terrible drives like that. No discipline, terrible play calling, and Goff can't make a big throw to save his life.

[TP_Fan]

3 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

2nd and 22 and we call a draw play. That's awful play calling and a penalty to boot.

Anything with long yardage is a draw play.  Always a draw play.  

[TP_Fan]

Campbell must never address holding with this team. They hold on every play on both sides of the ball.  Probably not the coaches fault though. He doesn’t have anything to do with discipline.  

[Mr.TaterSalad]

WOW, ANOTHER penalty. They want to give back the lead and lose.

[TP_Fan]

Defense face planting when it matters.  Never seen that before.   

[TP_Fan]

Lions are gonna have to use timeouts if the bears get another first down.  Methodical soul crushing drive here from the bears.  This is going perfectly for Chicago.  

[TP_Fan]

Tied for most loses in one score games.  Definitely not a coaching problem though.  

[TP_Fan]

Hahaha lions have to waste a timeout because the defense had no idea what is going on.  Timeout after a timeout!  With the game on the line.

Campbell can’t be judged though.