2024 Trade Deadline Rumors and Discussion

[Tiger337]

  On 7/29/2024 at 1:57 PM, chasfh said:

So fun that you took me seriously! 😝

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I knew it was a joke. I didn't get it though.  

[casimir]

  On 7/29/2024 at 12:09 PM, chasfh said:

Dingler sat for the Hens yesterday, and Rogers caught for us.

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Hold on, I have a quarter in my desk.  Heads or tails for Dingler?

[chasfh]

  On 7/29/2024 at 2:13 PM, Tiger337 said:

I knew it was a joke. I didn't get it though.  

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It would have hurt my feelings more if you'd said it wasn't funny instead. 😏

[monkeytargets39]

  On 7/29/2024 at 2:13 PM, casimir said:

Well, Faedo went 30 pitches yesterday.  Hinch mentioned that the plan was to get 3 innings out of him and Lucas.  That hardly seems like stretching out.  In fairness, I don't recall when his previous outing was or what his usage was.  It was probably the last bullpen game a few days previous.

So, OK, stretch out Faedo or Brieske, reinsert Maedo into the rotation.  Those are options that you hope to get 5 innings out of.  This bullpen is going to be taxed.

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It’s not ideal at all, but there isn’t much left as far as options without an acquisition.  Might as well actually plan for two of them to be starters so you can try to get some semblance of a workload balance for the rest of the pen.  Maybe use Holton instead of Faedo because he’s actually effective.

[gehringer_2]

  On 7/29/2024 at 1:57 PM, 1776 said:

Very interesting. Can you imagine this ream without Skubal or Flaherty! 

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Yeah- I remember how they finished in '17

[Tiger337]

  On 7/29/2024 at 2:18 PM, chasfh said:

It would have hurt my feelings more if you'd said it wasn't funny instead. 😏

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I would never do that!

[Sports_Freak]

  On 7/29/2024 at 1:55 PM, 1776 said:

I think Sports Freak’s intent was to hold a player back to avoid an injury before it happens. He can correct me if I misstated his point. At least that was my take.

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Yeah, this. I thought it was obvious, but I guess not. I hope he starts and wins. And I really don't want him moved. And I trust Harris much more than Avila. But please, don't trade Skubal!

[Sports_Freak]

  On 7/29/2024 at 2:20 PM, monkeytargets39 said:

It’s not ideal at all, but there isn’t much left as far as options without an acquisition.  Might as well actually plan for two of them to be starters so you can try to get some semblance of a workload balance for the rest of the pen.  Maybe use Holton instead of Faedo because he’s actually effective.

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It's hard to stretch pitchers out at the ML level. Many times, velocity is lost. But a couple of these guys were starters in their past, so there's that...

[Tenacious D]

If you trade Skubal and Flaherty, you’re basically surrendering the rest of the season and cobbling together a rotation of our AAA guys, injured starters returning and any MLB ready players via trades.

[Tenacious D]

Evan’s a bit delusional here…

 

[Sports_Freak]

  On 7/29/2024 at 2:44 PM, Tenacious D said:

If you trade Skubal and Flaherty, you’re basically surrendering the rest of the season and cobbling together a rotation of our AAA guys, injured starters returning and any MLB ready players via trades.

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And who would be our ace? Montero? Olson, when (if?) he returns? Keep Skubal!

[kdog]

Dingler's defense and framing is more important than his offense right now.

[RatkoVarda]

  On 7/29/2024 at 2:45 PM, Tenacious D said:

Evan’s a bit delusional here…

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but in a good way

[gehringer_2]

  On 7/29/2024 at 2:50 PM, kdog said:

Dingler's defense and framing is more important than his offense right now.

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No one is going to be able to frame the sow's ear of a pitching staff left after Flaherty and Skubal are gone into anything other than.....a lot of losses.

[LongLiveMaroth]

  On 7/29/2024 at 2:53 PM, RatkoVarda said:

but in a good way

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That is the only way you get rid of Skubal, honestly. 

[monkeytargets39]

I hate to say it but I’m starting to think we are going to end up being disappointed with the deadline moves.  Not that they will singularly be bad, but that Skubal will stay and the returns we get on anyone else that’s dealt won’t be franchise altering.  Or at least not anyone ready to make an immediate impact until mid-next year at the earliest.

 

Then we will still go into next year with 1-2 questionable spots in the rotation, plus Baez still the every day SS, Tork being given another shot at everyday 1B, some sort of Jace Jung platoon at 3B, and too many LH outfielders.

[kdog]

  On 7/29/2024 at 2:58 PM, monkeytargets39 said:

I hate to say it but I’m starting to think we are going to end up being disappointed with the deadline moves.  Not that they will singularly be bad, but that Skubal will stay and the returns we get on anyone else that’s dealt won’t be franchise altering.  Or at least not anyone ready to make an immediate impact until mid-next year at the earliest.

 

Then we will still go into next year with 1-2 questionable spots in the rotation, plus Baez still the every day SS, Tork being given another shot at everyday 1B, some sort of Jace Jung platoon at 3B, and too many LH outfielders.

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That's what the money is for.  Scott Harris is paid handsomely to figure this out. No excuses.

[Tiger337]

  On 7/29/2024 at 2:58 PM, monkeytargets39 said:

I hate to say it but I’m starting to think we are going to end up being disappointed with the deadline moves.  Not that they will singularly be bad, but that Skubal will stay and the returns we get on anyone else that’s dealt won’t be franchise altering.  Or at least not anyone ready to make an immediate impact until mid-next year at the earliest.

 

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This is what I expect too.  

[RatkoVarda]

2 month rentals rarely - if ever - net a franchise altering return

they do often net a quality player/prospect that can contribute to the major league team eventually

Lee was a solid get, and he looks even more solid as the season progresses

looking for the same but hopefully a bit more for Flaherty

[LongLiveMaroth]

Stove is hot!

[Toddwert]

  On 7/29/2024 at 3:23 PM, LongLiveMaroth said:

Stove is hot!

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theres your pitcher tonight

[monkeytargets39]

Wasn’t Vanasco the guy we absolutely torched in that big 5 run comeback inning against the Dodgers?

[kdog]

  On 7/29/2024 at 3:26 PM, Toddwert said:

theres your pitcher tonight

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He was optioned to Toledo...maybe that can change. 

Either way, they need bodies who can eat innings.

[oblong]

"Good POBO's find a way!"

Expecting to see a lot of that nonsense on twitter over the next few days

[AlaskanTigersFan]

  On 7/29/2024 at 3:21 PM, RatkoVarda said:

2 month rentals rarely - if ever - net a franchise altering return

they do often net a quality player/prospect that can contribute to the major league team eventually

Lee was a solid get, and he looks even more solid as the season progresses

looking for the same but hopefully a bit more for Flaherty

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Big difference from Lorenzen and Flaherty though. Flaherty will bet a pick near #35 in the draft. Lorenzen wouldn't of..... 

If we don't get at least a first round grade talent, we keep Flaherty. The return should be better than Hao-Yu.... Dalton Rushing for Flaherty is a good comparison....