Tenacious D Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 I think Sammons, Lockhart and Hurter will be the starters, unless they try and stretch out Faedo or Brieske. Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/30/2024 at 11:49 PM, Longgone said: He has the power, not the hit tool. Expand PS: The scouting reports says he has a great plate approach, despite the weak hit tool. Maybe they offset? Or the Tigers can help with the holes that he has in his swing? I'm not counting on anything here... I just think that a "wait-n-see-what-develops" approach works for me with this kid... 1 Quote
SoCalTiger Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 We have to muddle through 2024 but we got better in 2026 and this off season we should spend some coin for 2025 even if its one and two year deals with slight overpay or one BIG get if there is one that fits. Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 12:15 AM, LongLiveMaroth said: Liranzo, Clark and McGonigal at WM should be fun. Expand Campos there too... Still not giving up on him yet.... AND... I don't know when Briceno gets back... But I'd like to see him challenged at WM this year too... 1 Quote
Hongbit Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 12:16 AM, casimir said: Madden has been spectacularly awful in Toledo. Expand I blame Ohio. Quote
buddha Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 12:16 AM, casimir said: Madden has been spectacularly awful in Toledo. Expand high al avila pick sucks? no way. i'm stunned. Quote
casimir Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 12:13 AM, 1984Echoes said: I could see it happening. There are lots of ways to limit a pitcher's innings, even in MLB. And if he hits 100 innings this year (don't forget AFL...); doesn't that mean 125-130 innings next year, starter's innings...? I think the decision is, simply, is he ready for MLB Opening Day 2025... or not yet? They can figure out everything else, after that... Expand Starters innings for SP on the Opening Day roster should be 150+. I’m not saying he’ll stay in Toledo all season. Just keep him there in April, limit his innings, he can be among the first call ups if/when needed. Quote
kdog Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 The re-rebuild is going to be slow and incremental. Money will be spent on the margins within the risk parameters. All major improvement will mostly come from internal development. It's going to be awhile. Quote
Edman85 Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 Kikuchi is ranked higher in Eno's pitching plus rankings as of a couple weeks ago, fwiw. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5641710/2024/07/23/eno-sarris-mlb-starting-pitcher-rankings/ Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 12:16 AM, casimir said: Madden has been spectacularly awful in Toledo. Expand I thought Madden had been a bit better recently... but.... I was mistaken. He had two good starts in June: 11 inn's, 6 hits, 1 run 1 BB 12 K's. Outside of those two, he has a well over 2.00 WHIP at Toledo so yes, he's been atrocious. At some point, they'll end up pushing him to middle relief like Faedo & Brieske to see if he does any better there... it looks like. Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 12:47 AM, 1984Echoes said: I thought Madden had been a bit better recently... but.... I was mistaken... Expand Lockhart is probably who I was thinking of... His July starts: 20 1/3 inn's, 9 hits, 3 runs, 1 HBP, 7 BB's, 28 K's. Bring him up. Give him his MLB shot.... Quote
4hzglory Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 12:25 AM, casimir said: Starters innings for SP on the Opening Day roster should be 150+. I’m not saying he’ll stay in Toledo all season. Just keep him there in April, limit his innings, he can be among the first call ups if/when needed. Expand One thing in favor of him being on opening day roster is the potential draft pick bonus if he’d win ROY. If they think he’s ready, I think they figure out his innings in Detroit for that possibility alone. 1 Quote
1984Echoes Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 12:53 AM, 4hzglory said: One thing in favor of him being on opening day roster is the potential draft pick bonus if he’d win ROY. If they think he’s ready, I think they figure out his innings in Detroit for that possibility alone. Expand +1 Quote
Tigermojo Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 No press conference online yet from 7:00? I missed it. Quote
buddha Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 tigers got A- grades from the athletic for the trade. how dare we get an A- grade. fire his overrated ass. Quote
TJ Rollercoaster Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 From the Fangraphs blog about today's deals... regarding Evan Silva: As for Detroit, the decision to trade Canha feels straightforward. They’ve fallen out of the playoff race, but they didn’t want to trade Tarik Skubal (rightfully so, in my opinion). That means the only thing left to do is send out players on expiring contracts and get whatever you can for them. Canha fits that bill, and he was never going to command a huge haul, so they took what they could and moved on. Silva is an interesting prospect, though his value is capped thanks to a switch to the bullpen last year. He needed it; a high-effort delivery means he can touch the upper 90s despite a diminutive frame, but he struggled with strike throwing in A-ball. He’s a full-time reliever in Double-A this year, and while his walk rates still aren’t pretty, he’s striking out 30% of opponents to make up for it. He has good secondary stuff and is still only 21. He might be a whiff-reliant multi-inning reliever in the majors; he was logging two-inning stints fairly often for the Giants. He’s somewhere on the 35+/40 FV borderline. Quote
kdog Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 1:05 AM, Tigermojo said: No press conference online yet from 7:00? I missed it. Expand Bally put out a few clips 1 Quote
Toddwert Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 1:08 AM, kdog said: it's hit piece season: Expand Gorosh rubbing off on Evan? Quote
Hongbit Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 12:42 AM, Edman85 said: Kikuchi is ranked higher in Eno's pitching plus rankings as of a couple weeks ago, fwiw. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5641710/2024/07/23/eno-sarris-mlb-starting-pitcher-rankings/ Expand That ridiculous. Kikuchi had a great April, solid May, and a total horror show June and July. He’s got a 6 25 ERA in his last 11 starts. 65 hits and 39 ER in 54 IP. 2+ months of 💩 Flaherty last 12 starts is 2.43 ERA and 51 hits and 19 ER in 70.2 IP. The numbers aren’t even in the same atmosphere. 1 Quote
oblong Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 1:28 AM, Toddwert said: Gorosh rubbing off on Evan? Expand More likely Harris or someone else brushed off Evan so now he has to get even. Quote
Dan Gilmore Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 What if I told you… Either actually tell us or STFU. Weasel words are not worth reading. If you have real evidence to back it up, fine. 2 1 Quote
Edman85 Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 1:41 AM, Hongbit said: That ridiculous. Kikuchi had a great April, solid May, and a total horror show June and July. He’s got a 6 25 ERA in his last 11 starts. 65 hits and 39 ER in 54 IP. 2+ months of 💩 Flaherty last 12 starts is 2.43 ERA and 51 hits and 19 ER in 70.2 IP. The numbers aren’t even in the same atmosphere. Expand All based on stuff metrics, pitch shape, etc. Anybody can recite baseball reference stats. 1 Quote
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