LongLiveMaroth Posted July 1 Author Share Posted July 1 What a Skubal trade package would look like according to Woodbery and looks like he used the trade simulator as a check as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 13 hours ago, Tiger337 said: The Tigers had 12 consecutive years of losing records from 1994-2005. They have not quite reached that yet. Baby Doc has a few more seasons to catch up with Papa Doc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 6 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said: What a Skubal trade package would look like according to Woodbery and looks like he used the trade simulator as a check as well. From the article: “If Holliday made an All-Star team for the Tigers in 2027, would it assuage the regret of watching Skubal win a World Series and Cy Young for someone else in 2024? That’s a difficult question to answer, which is why this is a difficult trade to make.” My guess is that trading Skubal near term would alienate a lot of fans… a LOT of fans, many permanently. Eight year rebuilds don’t create much goodwill capital to draw from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 20 minutes ago, casimir said: Baby Doc has a few more seasons to catch up with Papa Doc. And at that point, he will start trying to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacious D Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 No one knows who Skubal is. Probably the most unheralded, low key superstar in Detroit sports. If the franchise could withstand trading Verlander, who everyone knew and loved, they’ll get over trading Skubal. Might take 48 hours, but it will happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 On 6/28/2024 at 7:59 AM, 1984Echoes said: I'll offer a crazy trade: To the Orioles: Skubal, ... To the Tigers: ... Orioles: Skubal, maybe another spare part if they want one, reliever or OF'er...? Tigers: Coby Mayo, Sam Basallo and 3 pitchers: 23 yo Cam Weston (in AA), 22 yo Nestor German (in low-A), 19 yo Jesus Palacios (in FCL): Who says no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 39 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Orioles: Skubal, maybe another spare part if they want one, reliever or OF'er...? Tigers: Coby Mayo, Sam Basallo and 3 pitchers: 23 yo Cam Weston (in AA), 22 yo Nestor German (in low-A), 19 yo Jesus Palacios (in FCL): Who says no? The Orioles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 18 hours ago, Tenacious D said: No one knows who Skubal is. Probably the most unheralded, low key superstar in Detroit sports. If the franchise could withstand trading Verlander, who everyone knew and loved, they’ll get over trading Skubal. Might take 48 hours, but it will happen. I imagine they lost some fans when they traded Verlander. If nobody knows Skubal, it is because nobody is going to games since they are are a losing organization. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 I think Seattle and Philadelphia and Atlanta and maybe very few other teams are willing to move big time prospects. But most teams just won't do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 2 Author Share Posted July 2 Fan Graphs AL Trade Deadline Preview https://blogs.fangraphs.com/top-of-the-order-al-trade-deadline-preview/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlue Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 2 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Fan Graphs AL Trade Deadline Preview https://blogs.fangraphs.com/top-of-the-order-al-trade-deadline-preview/ Not sure Shelby Miller is helping his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 19 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Orioles: Skubal, maybe another spare part if they want one, reliever or OF'er...? Tigers: Coby Mayo, Sam Basallo and 3 pitchers: 23 yo Cam Weston (in AA), 22 yo Nestor German (in low-A), 19 yo Jesus Palacios (in FCL): Who says no? If we trade Skubal to the Orioles it has to start with Holiday. We are desperate for shortstop. The risk with Mayo and Bassallo is there are some doubts they can stay at third and catcher and we already have to many misfit toys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 Or make a trade for Bo Bichette since he's available. Not a Harris type of bat though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 4 hours ago, SoCalTiger said: If we trade Skubal to the Orioles it has to start with Holiday. We are desperate for shortstop. The risk with Mayo and Bassallo is there are some doubts they can stay at third and catcher and we already have to many misfit toys. all would greatly prefer Holliday, but there are other people who can play SS besides him. of course, Harris could not find any of those other people last winter to guard against Javy's continued collapse, which is why they have AAAA McKinstry and FFFF Kreidler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongLiveMaroth Posted July 3 Author Share Posted July 3 Well there goes my Cooper Pratt for Flaherty dreams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 46 minutes ago, LongLiveMaroth said: Well there goes my Cooper Pratt for Flaherty dreams would have been a nice get. again we see trades being made not involving top prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 If the trade offers aren't good enough for Flaherty just QO him and attempt to re-sign/extend him 2-3 more years if he's amenable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishpack Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 On 7/2/2024 at 8:21 AM, 1984Echoes said: Orioles: Skubal, maybe another spare part if they want one, reliever or OF'er...? Tigers: Coby Mayo, Sam Basallo and 3 pitchers: 23 yo Cam Weston (in AA), 22 yo Nestor German (in low-A), 19 yo Jesus Palacios (in FCL): Who says no? Not me, I like this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 I would put Flaherty on IL. It might suppress his trade value, but the way things are going I want to head off any injury that stops him from being traded altogether. Worse case scenario he gets injured,hurts his back really bad, no QO made, and Scott is left holding an empty bag for the second year in a row. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTiger Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 6 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: all would greatly prefer Holliday, but there are other people who can play SS besides him. of course, Harris could not find any of those other people last winter to guard against Javy's continued collapse, which is why they have AAAA McKinstry and FFFF Kreidler. Agree and it shouldn't require trading Skubal. The same goes for 3rd base. Harris can not leave that open for a third year in the row and stop gaps, rookies who can not play the position and outfielders playing third do not count. Get a legit third sacker for 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 1 hour ago, SoCalTiger said: Agree and it shouldn't require trading Skubal. The same goes for 3rd base. Harris can not leave that open for a third year in the row and stop gaps, rookies who can not play the position and outfielders playing third do not count. Get a legit third sacker for 2025 Agreed. IMHO, IF Flaherty is healthy and pitching decent, a contending team or two will try to make a deal for him (BTW, I am for bringing him back in the off season if he does not land a huge contract elsewhere). * So, if a team or two or more are interested, here is where this FO can show it's chops. Package a prospect or two with Flaherty (or CKelly, etc. again NOT Top 5) and get a guy (or two) that you really like. Someone who can be part of a 'core' that SHarris always refers to. However, IMHO, that idea of 'a core', does not hold as much salt as before (there is some sense there but not to bank on). The game has changed. The league finds things out way more than before about players. Too many injuries, players have bad years or regress, etc. Just look at the Tigers from last year to this year. Will we win 78 games this year? Will we go 40-37 the rest of the way? (I do hope so, but...) They need to acquire more talented players and quit going/claiming after muddling INFs who seem to work the count or RPs that are often let go by other teams multiple times. The second paragraph is key to this trade deadline *. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 1 hour ago, SoCalTiger said: Agree and it shouldn't require trading Skubal. The same goes for 3rd base. Harris can not leave that open for a third year in the row and stop gaps, rookies who can not play the position and outfielders playing third do not count. Get a legit third sacker for 2025 Jace Jung is ready for 3B in 2025. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: Jace Jung is ready for 3B in 2025. no he's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 21 minutes ago, Toddwert said: no he's not Yes he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted July 3 Share Posted July 3 2 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Yes he is. ok have you watched him play third? If you have you know what im talking about he's not good at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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