Tigermojo Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 Hinch needs to take lessons from George Costanza. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 did someone recently say the Tigers were a team where hitters come to die? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 didn't score the extra runner, so this one isn't getting to the 11th. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 (edited) a team that can execute simple tasks like a bunt, a fly ball, vs one that can't. And the Angels aren't ever good, which just tells you how far away this Tiger team is. Edited June 30, 2024 by gehringer_2 Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 (edited) Wow, this collapse is becoming an epic one. So, will they take another high school kid with the #3 draft pick in 2025? Boy, that Hinch sure is a great strategist. And he seems to be getting these guys to improve too. Good thing we latched on to him for, what, 3 more years? And Scotty..........couldn't find a SS better than Kreidler or McKinstry, eh? None exist anywhere, huh? Edited June 30, 2024 by Motor City Sonics Quote
tiger2022 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, your Detroit Tigers. Quote
tiger2022 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Motor City Sonics said: Boy, that Hinch sure is a great strategist. And he seems to be getting these guys to improve too. Good thing we latched on to him for, what, 3 more years Hinch is so superior to any other manager that he is already initiating strategies for 2026. I will bet anyone that he could destroy any competition in Old Maid or Candy Land; he could probably be world champ at either of those. He's just that good at everything. Quote
SoCalTiger Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 2 hours ago, Tenacious D said: It was a fun game for 6 innings. I left after the top half of the 8th up 5-4. Does that count as seeing a win ? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 This game showed you that you may think you know what is obsolete in the game and what isn’t, the game has a way of showing you you are wrong. As long a the extra runner rule stays and home teams are going to get to the bottom of an extra inning needing to move one runner around, bunting is not a wasted skill. And of course with BAs down across the game, existing run probability tables are also inaccurate. Quote
kdog Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 The game results don’t sting as much for me. This team still needs a ton of work to be competitive in the long term. We should learn a lesson if they have a fake September win streak. Quote
casimir Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 8 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Can't execute anything I don't know. They've been executing a nose dive since the end of April. Quote
romad1 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 1 hour ago, kdog said: The game results don’t sting as much for me. This team still needs a ton of work to be competitive in the long term. We should learn a lesson if they have a fake September win streak. If the rest of this summer is just watching the younger hitters indistinguish themselves and them throwing up 0, 1, 2, 10 run streaks because that 4th starters just happened to catch them on a day when they decided to watch video before the game...well, please lets get to football season. Quote
kdog Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 8 minutes ago, romad1 said: If the rest of this summer is just watching the younger hitters indistinguish themselves and them throwing up 0, 1, 2, 10 run streaks because that 4th starters just happened to catch them on a day when they decided to watch video before the game...well, please lets get to football season. The tigers pivoted into a hitting developmental org specifically at the time when hitting is way down in mlb overall and no young hitters are doing anything. But if this exposes flaws in their minor league development and pro coaching staff, that’s good. It’s not just about throwing young hitters to the wolves. If you aren’t giving these guys solutions to their problems, it’s a pointless exercise. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, kdog said: The tigers pivoted into a hitting developmental org specifically at the time when hitting is way down in mlb overall and no young hitters are doing anything. But if this exposes flaws in their minor league development and pro coaching staff, that’s good. It’s not just about throwing young hitters to the wolves. If you aren’t giving these guys solutions to their problems, it’s a pointless exercise. I don't question whether this FO is as good as it gets with its analytics capabilities, but that is not the same thing as having the vision pick up when the game may be moving fast enough to invalidate their assumptions. It was also interesting at one point last night that Benetti and Petry talked about teams trying to play against their tendencies as being the next gambit to counter teams doing deep tendency analysis. Had to happen of course. Since Monroe may be gone, I'll quote the one bit of wisdom he once offered that I think was spot on about prepping batters. He said he didn't like it as a player because if you couldn't tell him with 100% certainly what a pitcher would do, it was useless because without certainty you still have to be ready for anything at each at bat and that's easiest to do with an unbiased mind. Now that said, Craig was no HOF hitter either. Edited June 30, 2024 by gehringer_2 Quote
chasfh Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 2 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: Since Monroe may be gone, I'll quote the one bit of wisdom he once offered that I think was spot on about prepping batters. He said he didn't like it as a player because if you couldn't tell him with 100% certainly what a pitcher would do, it was useless because without certainty you still have to be ready for anything at each at bat and that's easiest to do with an unbiased mind. Now that said, Craig was no HOF hitter either. He's no HOF intellect, either, since he doesn't appear to realize that there is a fertile middle ground between knowing 100% what a pitcher is going to throw, which is impossible, and completely guessing or even thinking about what the pitcher is going to throw, which is impractical. 1 Quote
1776 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 (edited) 26 minutes ago, chasfh said: …knowing 100% what a pitcher is going to throw, which is impossible,… Not so. Signed, 2017 Houston Astros Edited June 30, 2024 by 1776 2 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 Tigers have two catchers that throw well and a bunch of pitchers that go to sleep on runners. That's just a matter of discipline, which appears to be lacking. Quote
chasfh Posted June 30, 2024 Posted June 30, 2024 1 hour ago, 1776 said: Not so. Signed, 2017 Houston Astros Point! Quote
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