MichiganCardinal Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 11 minutes ago, Hongbit said: I’m choosing to work for Woody all day, every day over: David Tepper Mike Brown Jerry Jones Mike Bidwell Cal McNair Jim Irsay Mark Davis Jimmy Haslem I think it’s a toss up between Woody and: Shad Khan Dean Spanos Stan Kroenke Steve Ross Most guys don’t get to choose. There are only 32 jobs, only around 5 are open any given cycle, and usually those five coincide with bad owners who have a rotating cast at the head coach position. If you’re Ben Johnson though, you can afford to be picky. If I were him, I wouldn’t take a job from most of those owners you listed. Certainly not Tepper, Johnson, Jones, Davis, or Haslem. Mike Brown might be an exception because he’s got Joe Burrow. I could see him going to Philly if the Eagles can Sirianni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 28 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Aaron Glenn is NY Jet legend. I immediately thought about Glenn to the Jets but I'm not sure Rodgers would approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: I immediately thought about Glenn to the Jets but I'm not sure Rodgers would approve. Rodgers and all his little friends are good as gone if the Jets don’t make the playoffs. And the Jets will be back to the drawing board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 16 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: Rodgers and all his little friends are good as gone if the Jets don’t make the playoffs. And the Jets will be back to the drawing board. The Jets looked like they had a good thing going. I remember when everyone here was talking about further along they were in their rebuild than the Lions. They put together some good drafts, had a good defense, had some pieces on offense like Garret Wilson, but traded for Rodgers and signed his pals to overpriced contracts. I wonder if Joe Douglas survives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Just now, Motown Bombers said: The Jets looked like they had a good thing going. I remember when everyone here was talking about further along they were in their rebuild than the Lions. They put together some good drafts, had a good defense, had some pieces on offense like Garret Wilson, but traded for Rodgers and signed his pals to overpriced contracts. I wonder if Joe Douglas survives? Bad teams with stupid owners do stupid things that keep them bad. The Browns, Jets, Panthers, Jaguars, Bengals, Raiders, and Titans all qualify. They might accidentally catch lightning in a bottle once a decade, but they’ll never have sustained success until their owner dies, is replaced by his elderly wife who always has sunglasses on, and then the wife passes it on to the daughter named Sheila who actually puts her best foot forward in fixing the losing culture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hongbit Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 Have to watch until the end! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted October 8 Share Posted October 8 3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said: I heard on SiriusXM NFL Radio that Joe Douglas was “consulted” by Woody Johnson on Saleh’s firing. And Johnson spoke to Rodgers before the firing, but not about the firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 10 Author Share Posted October 10 (edited) Coaching Hot Seat Ranking I would have moved Saleh up to #2 or #3 - just based on the fact that Rodgers was about to put a knife in his back, but the knife was already out. They keep bringing up the 20-36 record. That first year was not on him. When a coach takes over a bad team, the first year isn't usually on them. Take away that first year and 16-23 still isn't great, but look who he had at QB - and that wasn't his fault. Jets defense is pretty good. Saleh will get another shot at HC somewhere, hopefully with a functioning franchise. Anyway. 1. Kevin Stefanski, Cleveland - It's not his fault, but coaches take the blame 2. Doug Pederson, Jacksonville - 1 Win is not enough to ice down that seat. 3. Dennis Allen, New Orleans - An uninspired choice to begin with. 4. Nick Siriani, Philadelphia - They have very big expectations in Philly and an impatient owner 5. Mike McCarthy, Dallas - Though not during the season. Lingering outside the hot seat room Sean McVay, LA Rams - Not that he'll get fired, but I could see him walking away. I could also see the Rams actually trading Stafford now, though not many teams really need a QB that can afford to give up anything Antonio Pierce, Raiders. The Raiders brand is Chaos. Jeff Ulbrich, NY Jets. Aaron has to have someone to blame when he sucks Edited October 10 by Motor City Sonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: Coaching Hot Seat Ranking I would have moved Saleh up to #2 or #3 - just based on the fact that Rodgers was about to put a knife in his back, but the knife was already out. They keep bringing up the 20-36 record. That first year was not on him. When a coach takes over a bad team, the first year isn't usually on them. Take away that first year and 16-23 still isn't great, but look who he had at QB - and that wasn't his fault. Jets defense is pretty good. Saleh will get another shot at HC somewhere, hopefully with a functioning franchise. Anyway. 1. Kevin Stefanski, Cleveland - It's not his fault, but coaches take the blame 2. Doug Pederson, Jacksonville - 1 Win is not enough to ice down that seat. 3. Dennis Allen, New Orleans - An uninspired choice to begin with. 4. Nick Siriani, Philadelphia - They have very big expectations in Philly and an impatient owner 5. Mike McCarthy, Dallas - Though not during the season. Lingering outside the hot seat room Sean McVay, LA Rams - Not that he'll get fired, but I could see him walking away. I could also see the Rams actually trading Stafford now, though not many teams really need a QB that can afford to give up anything Antonio Pierce, Raiders. The Raiders brand is Chaos. Jeff Ulbrich, NY Jets. Aaron has to have someone to blame when he sucks Athletic has a piece out today giving Ben Johnson the early favorite position for the Jets if they decide to move on from Ulbrich https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5832658/2024/10/10/ny-jets-coach-bill-belichick-johnson-rodgers/?source=freedailyemail&campaign=601983&userId=213687 edit From reading the article, Johnson seems to be the favorite for any head coach opening next season Edited October 10 by CMRivdogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 50 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Athletic has a piece out today giving Ben Johnson the early favorite position for the Jets if they decide to move on from Ulbrich https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5832658/2024/10/10/ny-jets-coach-bill-belichick-johnson-rodgers/?source=freedailyemail&campaign=601983&userId=213687 edit From reading the article, Johnson seems to be the favorite for any head coach opening next season He’s going to be linked to every job until he decides to take one. I don’t think he’ll go to the Jets. Toxic franchise, bad owner, no future QB, picking in the middle of the pack in a bad draft class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 If the Eagles move on from Sirianni, that would be a good landing spot for Johnson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 10 Author Share Posted October 10 46 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: If the Eagles move on from Sirianni, that would be a good landing spot for Johnson. Eagles have had a boatload of injuries, so it's hard to blame Nick, but coaches take the bullets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 3 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: Eagles have had a boatload of injuries, so it's hard to blame Nick, but coaches take the bullets. I think his problem isn’t being 2-2, it’s being 3-8 in his last 11 dating back to last year. The collapse last year with a team many thought was Super Bowl material put him on already shaky ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 Geno smith having another bottom 3rd type outing. Seattle about to go from 3-0 to 3-3 in 10 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 Whoops. We have a ball game because of a kickoff return. Changed the entire game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 Never mind, geno smith being geno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYLion Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 (edited) 22 hours ago, Motor City Sonics said: Coaching Hot Seat Ranking I would have moved Saleh up to #2 or #3 - just based on the fact that Rodgers was about to put a knife in his back, but the knife was already out. They keep bringing up the 20-36 record. That first year was not on him. When a coach takes over a bad team, the first year isn't usually on them. Take away that first year and 16-23 still isn't great, but look who he had at QB - and that wasn't his fault. Jets defense is pretty good. Saleh will get another shot at HC somewhere, hopefully with a functioning franchise. Anyway. 1. Kevin Stefanski, Cleveland - It's not his fault, but coaches take the blame 2. Doug Pederson, Jacksonville - 1 Win is not enough to ice down that seat. 3. Dennis Allen, New Orleans - An uninspired choice to begin with. 4. Nick Siriani, Philadelphia - They have very big expectations in Philly and an impatient owner 5. Mike McCarthy, Dallas - Though not during the season. Lingering outside the hot seat room Sean McVay, LA Rams - Not that he'll get fired, but I could see him walking away. I could also see the Rams actually trading Stafford now, though not many teams really need a QB that can afford to give up anything Antonio Pierce, Raiders. The Raiders brand is Chaos. Jeff Ulbrich, NY Jets. Aaron has to have someone to blame when he sucks I'd actually be shocked if any of those 5 are still there next season. Those seats are piping hot. Stefanski got dealt the worst hand, he's been a good coach but is victim to arguably the worst trade in NFL history that brought in the serial molester. Edited October 11 by NYLion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 11 Author Share Posted October 11 16 hours ago, TP_Fan said: Whoops. We have a ball game because of a kickoff return. Changed the entire game. What's the point in having replay if these officials don't want to embarrass their friends down on the field. That player touched the ball with his hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted October 11 Share Posted October 11 I strongly suspect this is made up BS to get clicks, but it's interesting to think about. What do you suspect the Lions would need to give up to land both? Would you be willing to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 "shinning" They could play ten thousand NFL seasons and this trade would never get made. Unless we send back Hutch and ASB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 12 Share Posted October 12 Yeah I laugh at some of those fan made trade proposals. I seen one last week involving the Chiefs and Jamo. They didn't say what the compensation for us would be just brought up all the reasons it made sense for the Chiefs and of course neglected to say one good reason why it made any sense for the Lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tigeraholic1 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 15 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Face of the franchise, nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 13 Author Share Posted October 13 (edited) You can move Doug Pederson to #1 on the Hot Seat List. Even though their bye week isn't until late November, they are going to can him tomorrow. They don't have an assistant with any Head Coaching experience, so they could make a Jeff Saturday-like move and bring someone from the outside. GM Trent Baalke probably needs to start clearing personal belongings from his front office as well. I mean, Trevor Lawrence, isn't bad, but he's not playing like a 1-1 and he's in year 4 + they just gave up 35 to a rookie QB. Things are not going well in Duvall. Edited October 13 by Motor City Sonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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