Hongbit Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 So much for once bitten twice shy. Davante went to the Raiders solely to be with Derek Carr and it lasted one season before Carr got traded and Adams had to flounder with a replacement QB. It’s likely the same thing is going to happen in NYJ. He’s not a great longterm planner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 Doesn’t Adams have a huge cap hit for next year? Would you want to invest $80 million or so of your cap in him and Rodgers for 2025? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted October 15 Share Posted October 15 43 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: The Jets need to get it over with and just name Rodgers player/head coach.... Someone needs to run the franchise. And they don’t have the toughest schedule. 10-7 is still plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 Tom Brady has been approved as a minority owner of the Raiders. How can he possibly continue to do his job as analyst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 5 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Tom Brady has been approved as a minority owner of the Raiders. How can he possibly continue to do his job as analyst Not permitted in another Team's Facility: Seems like it might be a hinderance, but not impossible to overcome. Not permitted to witness practice: Same as above... it hinders him, but not impossible. Not permitted to attention broadcast production meetings: This seems like it would be a harder thing to do, but I guess I don't know how much the on-air talent is involved in this. Do the on-air people get involved in the actual production or are they just told "Here's what's happening." If they're just told, can he be told what to do after the meeting? Prohibited from criticizing game officials and other clubs: Now here's where it seems like it would be impossible to be an analyst. You can't say a ref blew a call on the field. You can't say a team made a bad decision with a certain play. You can't say rushing a player back from an injury is a bad move, or that NOT rushing a player back is a bad move. You can't say "This team's game plan this half has been poorly thought out." Subject to gambling policy: Meh. Subject to anti-tampering policy: Here again it seems like LOTS of what you might say as an analyst could be considered tampering. Praise a player? "Oh, is he trying to subtly tell the player the Raiders would be interested in signing him in the off season?" Call out a player? "Oh, is he trying to devalue that player in the league's eyes so the Raiders would have fewer trade competitors?" On one hand those are very innocuous comments from an analyst, if Shelia were to say something glowing or massively critical about a player who was headed to FA or a potential trade target for many teams I'm SURE she would get in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate7474 Posted October 16 Share Posted October 16 I would think that the league and Fox vetted through all of this with Brady and there was a specific rules of engagement laid out for while he is calling games. If not then Brady decided he didn’t want to be a broadcaster any longer and he will be stepping away. My guess is we will get an answer to that from Fox in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 On 10/15/2024 at 10:42 AM, MichiganCardinal said: Watching Rodgers flounder as his career ends is honestly way more fun than if he had just retired when he tore his Achilles. I wonder what injury he’ll fake to quit on the season when the Jets are 4-8. Torn chakra.......... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 17 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Tom Brady has been approved as a minority owner of the Raiders. How can he possibly continue to do his job as analyst Fox won't have to do anything. The NFL will probably just change the rules for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 Thursday Night Football has had some decent matchups this year. Tonight, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 On 10/16/2024 at 12:04 PM, RedRamage said: Not permitted in another Team's Facility: Seems like it might be a hinderance, but not impossible to overcome. Not permitted to witness practice: Same as above... it hinders him, but not impossible. Not permitted to attention broadcast production meetings: This seems like it would be a harder thing to do, but I guess I don't know how much the on-air talent is involved in this. Do the on-air people get involved in the actual production or are they just told "Here's what's happening." If they're just told, can he be told what to do after the meeting? Prohibited from criticizing game officials and other clubs: Now here's where it seems like it would be impossible to be an analyst. You can't say a ref blew a call on the field. You can't say a team made a bad decision with a certain play. You can't say rushing a player back from an injury is a bad move, or that NOT rushing a player back is a bad move. You can't say "This team's game plan this half has been poorly thought out." Subject to gambling policy: Meh. Subject to anti-tampering policy: Here again it seems like LOTS of what you might say as an analyst could be considered tampering. Praise a player? "Oh, is he trying to subtly tell the player the Raiders would be interested in signing him in the off season?" Call out a player? "Oh, is he trying to devalue that player in the league's eyes so the Raiders would have fewer trade competitors?" On one hand those are very innocuous comments from an analyst, if Shelia were to say something glowing or massively critical about a player who was headed to FA or a potential trade target for many teams I'm SURE she would get in trouble. Production meetings aren't the ones u are referring to. Those are in house of course he can do that. It's the ones on air staff and producers meet with team coaches and key players. They are vital. It's why you here color guys say things like coach xyz said they would try to feed the ball to the rb today. They create a well rounded broadcast that has depth and context. Missing on them is a huge deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 42 minutes ago, KL2 said: Production meetings aren't the ones u are referring to. Those are in house of course he can do that. It's the ones on air staff and producers meet with team coaches and key players. They are vital. It's why you here color guys say things like coach xyz said they would try to feed the ball to the rb today. They create a well rounded broadcast that has depth and context. Missing on them is a huge deal. Someone else can sit in and brief him on what was covered so he can still use the information on the broadcast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 17 Author Share Posted October 17 2 hours ago, Hongbit said: Someone else can sit in and brief him on what was covered so he can still use the information on the broadcast. He has no business doing this as a team owner. We know how competitive he is. To think he won't use inside information is laughable. Of course he will. He'll just be sneaky. No way Tom will violate that trust. Yeah, and no way Ohtani made illegal bets too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 I saw in the Free Press this morning that the Rams may be headed for a rebuild. Ha-ha Matthew, you could have stayed in Detroit but you didn't wanna go thru a rebuild. It sure sucks being you, but at least you got a ring. Enjoy a few seasons of double digits losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 (edited) 6 hours ago, Hongbit said: Someone else can sit in and brief him on what was covered so he can still use the information on the broadcast. He can just phrase all of his criticisms of officials and other franchises as questions to Kevin Burkhardt. “Kevin, does it seem to you like this officiating crew needs about ten pairs of glasses?” ”Kevin, have you ever seen an owner as inept as Woody Johnson?” ”Kevin, Maxx Crosby has been an incredible addition to this Detroit defense but don’t you think the Lions must have had prohibited communication with him to get it done?” Edited October 17 by Jason_R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted October 17 Share Posted October 17 2 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: I saw in the Free Press this morning that the Rams may be headed for a rebuild. Ha-ha Matthew, you could have stayed in Detroit but you didn't wanna go thru a rebuild. It sure sucks being you, but at least you got a ring. Enjoy a few seasons of double digits losses. Will be interesting to see what happens the next few weeks. He could easily be traded. Miami should be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 18 Author Share Posted October 18 3 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: I saw in the Free Press this morning that the Rams may be headed for a rebuild. Ha-ha Matthew, you could have stayed in Detroit but you didn't wanna go thru a rebuild. It sure sucks being you, but at least you got a ring. Enjoy a few seasons of double digits losses. If Stafford had stayed here the Lions don't get the draft picks they used to build this team and we'd probably still be floundering around 7-10 to 9-8 The Rams / Lions trade - in my opinion, is the greatest sports trade in my life. Everyone won the trade. The players involved, the teams involved. The Rams run had to come to an end. They got a ring out of it. I'd take that any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 Maybe this has already been posted, if not, here's a funny Caleb Williams pass; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 14 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: I saw in the Free Press this morning that the Rams may be headed for a rebuild. Ha-ha Matthew, you could have stayed in Detroit but you didn't wanna go thru a rebuild. It sure sucks being you, but at least you got a ring. Enjoy a few seasons of double digits losses. I wonder if Detroit would be as good as they are now without the trade though? Don't get me wrong here... I think Holmes and Campbell would still have built a winner, but would we be on Super Bowl contender this year or would it be 25 or 26 before we got there? Because of how many trades happened in the draft it's kinda hard to say exactly who is or isn't with the Lions with the draft capital gained from the trades, but at the very least I'm willing to say that Jamo and Gibbs. You might make case for Branch and/or Campbell and/or LaPorta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 18 Share Posted October 18 1 minute ago, RedRamage said: I wonder if Detroit would be as good as they are now without the trade though? Don't get me wrong here... I think Holmes and Campbell would still have built a winner, but would we be on Super Bowl contender this year or would it be 25 or 26 before we got there? Because of how many trades happened in the draft it's kinda hard to say exactly who is or isn't with the Lions with the draft capital gained from the trades, but at the very least I'm willing to say that Jamo and Gibbs. You might make case for Branch and/or Campbell and/or LaPorta. True, the Stafford trade jump started an impressive rebuild. Brad may have drafted us into a good team without the trade, who knows? But I don't think Stafford will stick around for a Rams rebuild, he'll probably be traded. Or retire.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 20 Author Share Posted October 20 (edited) COACH HOT SEAT RANKINGS 1. KEVIN STEFANSKI, Cleveland. I'll say what I've always said, it isn't really Steafnski's fault. It's the front office's fault for putting so much on such a flawed human in Deshaun Watson, but they're stuck with him. At this point the season is lost and a mid-season firing makes no sense, but this is the Browns. If the Bengals clobber them this week it could happen. Bye week isn't until November 10th, but they'd be 1-6 and that wouldn't matter. We could see the first former Lions Head Coach (Jim Schwartz) become a Head Coach again since the 60s? 2. DOUG PEDERSON, Jacksonville. Two years ago, the Jaguars were right there with the Lions as teams about to take over their division and be the class of the conference. While the Lions are in a dogfight with 2 really good teams (I'll believe the Bears when they start playing tougher teams), Jacksonville has now watched the Texans and Colts pass them by. They're bottom-feeding with the Titans, but the problem is the Titans were expected to have a bad year. They are playing in front of the whole country again and if the 1-5 Patriots embarrass them, Doug and his family can stay in London and make a nice vacation out of it. Could this be a spot for Vrabel? 3. ANTONIO PIERCE, Las Vegas. KC in the division. The Chargers have a real Head Coach and now the Broncos are waking up from their coma. Vegas is a perpetual mess. I'll keep going back to the fact that they never should have fired Rich Bisaccia. Why can't they find a QB? They had a good one in Carr and Josh McArsehole pushed him in front of the bus. The Raiders have a reactionary history. Now Brady is part of the ownership? Cue the circus music. Could Belichick actually work for Brady? LOL 4. NICK SIRIANI, Phiadelphia. Should he be on the Hot Seat? Well, he's in Philly, so he is. Chirping at fans at a home game is not a good sign. 5. JONATHAN GANNON, Arizona. A lot of people felt Kyler Murray was overrated. Sure, a ton of natural athletic talent, but is he a leader? Gannon's job was to bring that out of him and it doesn't seem to be working. The 49ers look shaky, the Seahawks are a .500 team, the Rams run is done. This was a perfect opportunity for the Cardinals to step up and well, they are 2-4. They need to start winning right now because I think the 49ers are about to get it together. 6. MIKE McCARTHY, Dallas. He'd be #1 if I thought Jerry would make a mid-season move. He could if the Cowboys have another game like last week (that was fun). But that team is SOFT. After that first Branch interception, they quit. But so much of this is on Prescott. He puts up gaudy numbers, but he's not a winner. On a soft team he's the soft, gooey center. Those numbers demand a huge contract, but the team would probably be much better off with a tough game manager. Stafford would make this team a whole lot better - instantly. The Bill Belichick rumors will be flying, but Jerry would never relinquish control. Jerry is going to offer Ben Johnson an awful lot of money. 7. **SEAN McVAY, LA Rams. (** - Not getting fired, but retiring). The Rams mortgaged their future trading so many draft picks and they got the ring and now is the price they pay. There have been rumors of him stepping away for a couple of years now. This would most likely be the time. I don't think he's done coaching forever. He's still young, he'll be on TV somewhere and after his kids grow up, he'll coach again. If the Lions mortgaged their future and got a ring out of it, I'd be fine with that. I could absolutely see Stafford in Miam this season and the Rams getting a couple of picks back. Tua's done. 8. AARON RODGERS, NY Jets. Okay, they got him another weapon (he had enough already). I don't see Team President Aaron Rodgers and Jets GM Aaron Rodgers, firing Aaron Rodgers, but who knows. Bye week is late November. Maybe he'll go drink a bunch of ayahuasca tea and crap all this negativity away in the woods. It'll be too late to save the season. I would love to see the Steelers defense dismantle him. Lions are my #1 team this week, Steelers are the runner up. I was going to say the Steelers are #2, but Aarons the REAL #2, isn't he. Edited October 20 by Motor City Sonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 I would have Sirianni higher. 4-8 since week 13 last year. If they don't right the ship and win a playoff game, I think he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 Turn on NFL Network if you want to watch a guy lose his job in real time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 1 minute ago, Hongbit said: Turn on NFL Network if you want to watch a guy lose his job in real time. If the Jags don't fire Baalke at the same time, the next coach will be setup for failure. Pederson was never a good hire to begin with, but no one was going to succeed with Baalke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 If I was Khan, I would hire Pete Carroll as HC-GM. He's not going to be there 10 years, but he can at least right the ship, save Lawrence's career (whatever is left to be saved), and transition to someone younger than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 3 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: If I was Khan, I would hire Pete Carroll as HC-GM. He's not going to be there 10 years, but he can at least right the ship, save Lawrence's career (whatever is left to be saved), and transition to someone younger than him. Pete Carroll is 73 years old. I’m not sure he’s got another NFL job in him much less a big rebuild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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