Motown Bombers Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Even the Rams player knew he committed a penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 2 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: Far worse than the one they called on Aaron Rodgers in 2015. I'm sure Vikings fans will just take it as a given that they would go 80 yards and get a two-point conversion in 90 seconds without a timeout and then win in overtime. you should have heard them complain after the lions game. fans are fans. that said, that's a 15 yard penalty and a first down at the 20(ish) yard line as opposed to the game being pretty much over. its a huge miss. bugs me because now the viking fans feel aggrieved when if they looked at it without bias, they'd see that flores' vaunted defense has been carved up two games in a row and san darnold is who we thought he was. and this time, they didnt let him off the hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 lol Vikings fans have to be losing their minds after that no call. Never mind they were pinned on the three with 90 seconds left and not timeouts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 To be fair, that was a huge no call. I would be upset too. That game would still be very winnable if the penalty is called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Just now, MichiganCardinal said: I was watching that thinking about how the Lions never would have given the Vikings that ball back - especially not with 1:50 left - after converting the late 3rd down. Campbell has been in that same situation several times and trusts his players enough to throw for a 1st down and win the game on offense. McVay refused to go for any TDs in last year's playoff game on 4th down. I think they were in the red zone 4 times with no touchdowns? Dan Campbell would never be that afraid, play not to lose instead of to win. McVay is the most over-rated coach in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sports_Freak Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 3 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: lol Vikings fans have to be losing their minds after that no call. Never mind they were pinned on the three with 90 seconds left and not timeouts. As Lions fans, we know the feeling. And it's kinda funny when it happens to other teams, especially teams in our division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I really should go to bed, but I cannot resist reading the Vikings forum. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 6 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: To be fair, that was a huge no call. I would be upset too. That game would still be very winnable if the penalty is called. No doubt. I'd be pissed. But ESPN analytics had the Rams at a 99.9% chance of victory after the declined Illegal Formation penalty on first down. Darnold forcing a throw into double coverage and getting picked was far more likely than them marching down the field. But you never know, especially with Jefferson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 7 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: To be fair, that was a huge no call. I would be upset too. That game would still be very winnable if the penalty is called. Not “very” winnable. Still have to march down the field and convert a 2, then win the coin toss and score a TD after scoring 6 pts after the first quarter. They had a chance. But it was an outside chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Vikings Reddit is fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I almost thing Mullens would have been better for a comeback. He didn't give a **** and just threw jump balls to Jefferson when their backs were against the wall vs the Lions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RatkoVarda Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Young knew he was about to get called for face mask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Definitely a different Rams team when healthy although you can say that about a lot of teams in the NFL. For the first time, I feel like this Lions team does have next guy up and can withstand injuries. We will need to replace Hutch although its nice to know we finally have an organization that can find talent and coaches that can scheme to compensate for the losses. I wonder if this win takes Kupp off the trade market or just ups the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) Haven't heard any updates on Darrisaw but he's the Vikings Sewell so if he has to miss some time that will be a big loss for them. Edited October 25 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 25 Author Share Posted October 25 Thank you Matthew Stafford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 25 Author Share Posted October 25 (edited) 8 hours ago, Sports_Freak said: As Lions fans, we know the feeling. And it's kinda funny when it happens to other teams, especially teams in our division. Yeah, I can't feel sorry for anyone else. Not after what we've seen here. Brandon Perna from That's Good Sports, a Broncos fan, often will cite this in his videos. He gets it. (you can watch the videos on You Tube) Edited October 25 by Motor City Sonics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) I hate the new crack down on illegal formation. They never used to call receivers for being 6 inches too far off the line as it really has no impact on the play. It now seems to get called 2-3 times a game and I don’t really see the giant benefit to enforcing it so closely. It’s ticky tack which becomes even more frustrating when they are missing other big obvious calls that have a huge impact on the game. I also am beginning to get frustrated with constant false starts. Some are obvious and must be called but again every game I see a defensive player point at a tiny flinch from a OL and it’s an immediate flag. The zebras need to let a few of these go and not get baited whenever a DL stops and points. The automatic replay also needs to be changed to come in and make a call like last night when it’s obvious that a blatant personal foul has been missed. Need to eliminate the rule where if a flag wasn’t thrown on the field, a terrible mistake can’t be fixed. At the very least, they should amend and have the ability to intercede within the last 2:00 of a game. Edited October 25 by Hongbit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Great marketing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) Yeah the false start thing is especially annoying, like Greg Olsen said during the Lions game if the defenders just point at the o lineman he's confident the refs will throw the flag whether a guy moved or not. I mean it's hard to stay motionless in that position for several seconds, especially when you're 6'5 300+lbs so there needs to some leeway. Edited October 25 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 27 minutes ago, Hongbit said: Great marketing! To defend the officials briefly, you can kind of see why it’s so hard to get this correct. The referee in the frame can’t tell if he’s got the shoulder pad or face mask. The official opposite the one in frame is looking through the defender to see it. No referee is where the camera angle shows it to be obvious. It all is happening obscenely fast. You’re basically asking them to call something they don’t see, that is probably (but maybe not) there based on all the indicators available (the way the head turns, the way Darnold immediately reacts, and the way the defender reacts). And when you go off of cues instead of actually seeing it happen, you can just as easy get a phantom face mask on Aaron Rodgers when none occurred, where he then rips a Hail Mary off a Jim Caldwell defense that is guarding the sidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hongbit Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Facemask from the side will cause the head to turn abruptly in a way that couldn’t be happen from grabbing the pads or collar. This is actually one of the penalties that they don’t need to see the full infraction. That abrupt head turn that moves much faster than the rest of the body is only caused from a facemask. The Rodgers phantom facemask was just a terrible call. There was no head jerk that differentiated from the body and it was more from the front. He fell and embellished and they bought it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Is an official review called in College different than NFL? Seems like you see a lot more reviews on these types of plays in college and they usually get it right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 this guy also did not see it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 One of the football accounts I follow on Twitter brought up a point about the Vikings defense. He said with gadgety type defenses that Flores uses that relies more on different blitz packages and less on actual talent tend to get worse as the season goes on when teams get more and more film on them and make the proper adjustments. Let's see if that plays out that way this year, judging by the last 2 weeks that could end up being the case. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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